The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by Udo » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 2:52 PM UTC

The Disappointing Surprise From Apple
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Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by lazugod » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:07 PM UTC

One of the comments notes that this was a well publicized change, citing page 9 of Siracusa's in-depth review. I'm sure every affected user will have read through his entire review before upgrading.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by abruzzi » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:13 PM UTC

I have no love for RSS, and even if I did, there are many third party apps that fill the niche, but I will say (as a regular Final Cut Pro user) welcome to the club. When Apple does their famous "cutting out the cruft" there are always users like us that are jilted because they depend on that cruft.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by JacksonGariety » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:14 PM UTC

Feed readers are dead. Not at all feeds themselves, but the process of using a reader like mail to pull in feeds to a desktop app is going out the window. When consumers buy products, they should be able to look into the future. If you choose technology that is a bit behind the times, understand that you should be careful before upgrading, as old features are often cut from Apple products.

This happened in every industry, not just the computer industry. The problem here is that the computer industry abandons old features at a MUCH faster rate than other industries, but for good reason.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by Udo » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:18 PM UTC

JacksonGariety wrote: post #4

Feed readers are dead. Not at all feeds themselves, but the process of using a reader like mail to pull in feeds to a desktop app is going out the window. When consumers buy products, they should be able to look into the future. If you choose technology that is a bit behind the times, understand that you should be careful before upgrading, as old features are often cut from Apple products. This happened in every indu…

> Feed readers are dead.

At least as far as standalone desktop apps are concerned, I think you're right. I can't even remember a time when I was not using Google Reader. I do hope RSS-fed reading in general is not going extinct though.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by signalsignal » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:21 PM UTC

I don't understand what the article is about. Is she trolling for page views? I don't understand why she considers herself "violated" by Apple. Don't people make backups anymore?

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by reustle » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:21 PM UTC

JacksonGariety wrote: post #4

Feed readers are dead. Not at all feeds themselves, but the process of using a reader like mail to pull in feeds to a desktop app is going out the window. When consumers buy products, they should be able to look into the future. If you choose technology that is a bit behind the times, understand that you should be careful before upgrading, as old features are often cut from Apple products. This happened in every indu…

This isn't as much about abandoning features as it is deleting content. It would have been great to say "Hey, we're about to delete all of your feeds, would you like to export them?".

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by jws » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:21 PM UTC

We've found the only user in the world that used RSS in Mail! I feel a bond, as I was apparently the only user of RSS in Safari. (as confirmed by informal polling of friends and family).

I moved my stuff into Google Reader and also went to Reeder on the Mac, but tried Newsify on the iOS devices and have to say that a custom newspaper is a much better experience than the hundred takes on master-detail drill down you find in the typical RSS reader.

I resent Apple killing my feature, but I am better off going forward. I should have switched long ago. And I don't live in Stockholm.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by Nerdfest » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:21 PM UTC

JacksonGariety wrote: post #4

Feed readers are dead. Not at all feeds themselves, but the process of using a reader like mail to pull in feeds to a desktop app is going out the window. When consumers buy products, they should be able to look into the future. If you choose technology that is a bit behind the times, understand that you should be careful before upgrading, as old features are often cut from Apple products. This happened in every indu…

most industries have some thought for their customers, and are not so dictatorial. They will at least give some advance warning of feature removal. Feed readers are far from dead, and I find there are more people than ever using them, mainly through Google Reader. as there are huge advantages to having globally maintained read/unread content.

Re: The Disappointing Surprise From Apple

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Post by Wilya » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 3:22 PM UTC

JacksonGariety wrote: post #4

Feed readers are dead. Not at all feeds themselves, but the process of using a reader like mail to pull in feeds to a desktop app is going out the window. When consumers buy products, they should be able to look into the future. If you choose technology that is a bit behind the times, understand that you should be careful before upgrading, as old features are often cut from Apple products. This happened in every indu…

That's a pretty gratuitous assumption that you're making. And I don't see what the "good reason" is. Let's face it, they just dropped a feature that people were using, without clear upgrade path. Few people were using it ? Maybe. That doesn't make it a good decision, only (at best) a sad but necessary compromise.

Frankly, a feed reader that is already there, and works, needs next to zero maintenance. It's not like RSS format changes everyday.