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The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by brudgers »

gwbas1c wrote: post #24

> Would you prefer to watch your sport of choice in 180-degree immersive video, or as a 2D flatscreen view with a tabletop 3D representation? I think for people who are analyzing the game: Coaches, players, opponents, dedicated fans, historians, the tabletop view will be priceless. I also suspect that the tabletop view will become a tool in the editing room. For casual sports fans, a much more immersive experience wi…

Oddly for me, radio has been the most immersive media for live sports. Maybe because it is forced to prioritize audio…humans dance to sound not pictures.

Not to say I seek out radio or that 3d doesn’t seem cool. Only that the effects of sound penetrate me in a way that visual stimulus doesn’t.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by willturman »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

> I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this.

Grilling with Mark Zuckerberg? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibm3WhfLk08

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

DoD is soon getting its Enemy of the State wish fulfilled with pervasive targeted imaging from VLEO. Projecting that realtime imagery in 3D would be icing on the cake.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by Spivak »

paxys wrote: post #11

Good for a tech demo and good for making headlines, but exactly zero people are actually going to watch a game like this for more than 30 seconds. At minimum the players need to be "real", not cartoon stick figures. The bigger problem of course is that with local/regional blackouts, nationally televised games and other broadcast restrictions there aren't very many games worth watching on NBA's own app for League Pass…

I don't envy whoever has to wrangle all the random licensing contracts major sports networks have. My partner is big into fantasy and she's got players on all sorts of random teams and wanted to watch the game so I looked into it.

Me: Can I pay someone, presumably you, any price to watch any NFL game I want?

NFL: no.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by dylan604 »

tjohns wrote: post #18

I'm very curious what they're using on the capture side for this. How are they keying out the rest of the stadium? What's the camera setup? I'm not a huge sports fan, so I honestly couldn't say whether I'd want to watch a game like this - but I love the concept. From a technology perspective it's great to see them trying new things. I will say that 180° video - the other way to content in VR - makes content feel very…

Stadiums/arenas are using more and more cameras through out that some very cool/interesting things are coming from it. One of them is a Matrix bullet-time style ability for highlighting plays. The MLB places ads for the TV audience that the people in the stadium do not see. Same for the boards around a football pitch.

There's other tech going on specifically for sports analytics using 8K cameras that analyzes each player to give their sprint speeds, running distances, heatmap of their position on the field, etc.

All of this to say that I don't really think that placing specific cameras in the arena to provide this type of view while keying out the rest of the stadium would be that difficult. Especially if the cameras are in fixed positions where the distances/angles were well known to the court.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by tombert »

fullshark wrote: post #43

Another AR/VR use case I don't think people even want with perfect fidelity. Time to seriously consider posibility computers/smartphones are fully mature products like washing machines and refrigerators were 40 years ago and there is no next form factor.

They've been mature for awhile.

My first smartphone was a $50 LG Android thing in 2012. I used it to watch YouTube, check my email, listening to music, send texts, make calls, and GPS.

I use my current phone, an iPhone 13 Pro Max, to watch YouTube, check my email, listen to music, send texts, make calls, and GPS.

Obviously the newer phone is better, everything is faster, higher resolution screen, much better camera, etc...but it's not like I am doing anything with it that I wasn't doing in 2012 with my cheapy Android.

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Post by terramex »

daft_pink wrote: post #25

Do they have this for F1?

There was unofficial Lapz app ( https://www.lapz.io ) on TestFlight but got taken down after complaint from F1: https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/20/24301420/apple-vision-pr...

I watched few races on it and it was pretty great. You logged in with your F1TV account and could set up streams around you plus there was 3D view of the track with current positions of cars on it, you could look at car and pinch and driver view opened in pop-up window attached to car model. Couple times I noticed a car stopped on track before it was shown on main broadcast.

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

seanalltogether wrote: post #35
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am struggling to come up with some mainstream uses for this. Sports, concerts, plays, etc are something that could theoretically be used on a recurring basis to entice the public. My only nerd imaginations are something like a WH40k game. Watch a MOBA in 3D. Fortnite. Maybe a few historical events? This was the moon landing configuration. The view from the grassy knoll to Kennedy.

My wife would absolutely pay money to go to an auditorium with 100 other people to watch a live taylor swift concert. Even though its technically feasible to do it in your home, or even to watch it the next day, I know she would pay to be part of a "live" experience.

They have that now in movie theaters that simulcast stage performances.

Re: The NBA Apple Vision Pro app now has a 3D tabletop view

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Post by harmmonica »

crooked-v wrote: post #16
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #3

Think I laughed out loud when they showed the table top NBA in the launch video because the exact same concept was in the launch videos for at least oculus and magic leap, maybe more headsets but it’s always been a fake concept that feels a bit like a solution in search of a problem. Fair play to them finally making the eternal vaporware demo real. Fascinating seeing how an Apple launch plays out when the 3rd party d…

It feels to me like it's one step closer to having an arbitrarily positioned "courtside seat" view.

Anyone able to explain the technical reason this doesn't exist yet? Maybe technically feasible but NBA thinks it would cannibalize tickets sales?

If it did (does?) exist it would be nice if it could be "all" courtside views (pick the one you want or switch between them as you're watching). And when I say all it doesn't have to be literally every seat, but there could be one at each baseline and then maybe one each side of the scorer's table and then 2 opposite those so 6 in total.

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