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Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by dep_b »

Sweepi wrote: post #26
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's not just a meme that Germans like to put "Deutsche" in front of every product/company name, it's the reality. How imaginative, the marketing departments who come up with these names must be making bank.

Well who ever came up with "Deutsche Linux-Distribution" most likely did not have a marketing department. Besides, putting "German" in your product name at the time (199x) actually was a savvy marketing move, especially if you are the first in a particular niche. There were lots of buyers who wanted to buy fully translated software back then, and the sticker "Software and Manual in German" probably is the most succes…

The Netherlands had that system as well. But entering the number first is faster: the number needs to be exact, but the street can be autocompleted easily.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by FlyingSnake »

whalesalad wrote: post #2

My first introduction to linux was SuSE 7.2. Got it in the physical box from a local Borders bookstore. I think I was about 12-13 years old. Installed it on the family Gateway computer (PIII, 128mb ram).

I remember fondly my first brush with SuSE around 2005, and I was blown away how polished and professional it was. I was a Red Hat user then and later moved on to Ubuntu so I found the YaST based bit foreign to my taste. Those were the days of wild distro-hopping.

Pentium 4, 128MB RAM

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

BSDobelix wrote: post #40
skrebbel wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Software- und System-Entwicklung Wow that's like naming your cleaning company "Cleaning Company"

Like OpenAI or IBM....or the best one..Oracle for a Database ;)

> Like OpenAI

About "Course of Theoretical Physics" by Lev Landau and Evgeny Lifshitz

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_of_Theoretical_Physics

it is said (also quoted on the Wikipedia page):

"not a word of Landau and not a thought of Lifshitz".

Similarly, one could say that OpenAI is named this way because it's neither open nor intelligent.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

skrebbel wrote: post #18
johannes1234321 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original name of the company was S.u.S.E. with the dots. "Software- und System-Entwicklung" (Software and system development)

> Software- und System-Entwicklung Wow that's like naming your cleaning company "Cleaning Company"

> Wow that's like naming your cleaning company "Cleaning Company"

... or naming your boring company "The Boring Company".

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Post by mugsie »

dmacvicar wrote: post #12

I worked there for more than a decade, and I can never highlight enough: - How great the place was for those involved in the open-source ecosystem - How great Novell and Attachmate were as owners The company had, like many others, good and tough times, but the people were very passionate about it. I will never stop feeling lucky for it being part of me for so many years.

I was only there for a year or two, but it was a great place to work, and I 100% agree on the upstream contributors, but the main thing I will remember is how much people cared.

In some cases, waaayyy too much about little things, but a lot of the time about the right thing to do for the product and for the open source community around it.

I think the main thing I will miss is sitting down on a Friday afternoon and reading the dev list (devel@ I think?), it was a thing of beauty.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by pjmlp »

After Red-Hat and Mandrake, it became my favourite home distro until Ubuntu came into the scene.

Still have the SuSE 6.3 box, like it used to be common in those days.

Yast is a great tool, and SusSE is one of the few distros that isn't stuck in the 1970's view of what means OS administration.

Also an ideal candidate for the upcoming age of siloed countries, stuck in commercial wars.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by bregma »

weinzierl wrote: post #35
vondur wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

National is generic, but many companies in the U.S. include America in their name.

Last time Germans put a National in front of an organization it did not go so well. Similar with Reich but surprisingly there are still a couple of things starting with Reich , like the Parliament building is still called Reichstag even if there is no Reich no more. Americans use National mostly when things are uncontroversially national and international. For mostly national and controversially international things…

The World Series is a contest between the National League (which is only American teams) and the American League (which has international teams).

Other international sports leagues with teams in the USA include the National Basketball Association and the National Hockey Association.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by dismalaf »

BSDobelix wrote: post #38

I like openSUSE, but the predictability is dirt poor (which is why I don't use it for servers...or anything else). About two years ago, LEAP was supposed to be canned for this new shiny thing, since then...nothing. So, dear openSUSE, should I install openSUSE Leap? Wait for the "new" thing, is this "new" thing also free or what? Or you know what? I have a better idea...I just install Debian or FreeBSD (community base…

Kind of agree with this take. Suse was my first distro (got a box set of the commercial distro in the early 00's), but it's been unpredictable, sometimes bug laden, unclear direction, and during that time Debian has become not just better but also easier to use...

Flatpak and Flathub mean almost any distro is suitable for a home user, so now what I look for is stability and how easy it is to install and use dev tools. Everything runs and works on Debian, I've found openSuse to have more bugs.

Re: The History of S.u.S.E

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Post by ta1243 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #8
happyweasel wrote: post #4

IMHO, Deutsche Linux-Distribution (DLD) was the first german linux distribution (first release in 1992).

So it's not just a meme that Germans like to put "Deutsche" in front of every product/company name, it's the reality. How imaginative, the marketing departments who come up with these names must be making bank.

So it's not just a meme that Americans like to slap a flag on everything they import from China, it's the reality. How imaginative, the marketing departments who come up with these names must be making bank.
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