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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by yencabulator »

mikaylamaki wrote: post #193
yellow_lead wrote: post #22

Seems like you can't run it locally. I don't like my code being sent to a third party, especially when my employer may not agree with it. I also edit secret/env files in my IDE, so for instance, a private key or API key could get sent, right? I hope there will be a local option later.

> a private key or API key could get sent, right? You can disable this feature on a per-file basis, here’s the relevant setting: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/blob/39c9b1f170cd640cd...

Sending files to a remote server is never something that should need to be disabled, this must be an opt-in or it's time for a fork.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

rootnod3 wrote: post #110
ubercore wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can definitely run more than one LSP with zed -- can you elaborate on the angular case that gives you trouble?

I think the point is: "per file". Sure you an run a Rust LSP in one file and a JS LSP in another, but you can't drive both in the same file.

You can. This is fully supported.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by yencabulator »

ljm wrote: post #6
boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

I actually wish more editors had emacs style indenting where hitting tab anywhere on the line would re-indent it or otherwise cycle through indent levels if it was unclear, especially because you’re unlikely to get copilot suggestions in the middle of a word. Plus, it doesn’t break if there’s a syntax error elsewhere in the file.

I thought that was a great feature. Now I'm writing mostly languages with well-defined formatting rules and simply never need tab. This is even better.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by yencabulator »

card_zero wrote: post #67
madmulita wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't give them ideas! I can already see the useless AI key next to Fn in my next keyboard.

That already happened, just over a year ago, we have Copilot keys now. I guess it invokes the AI rather than controling it, maybe there'll be another key soon.

See, you're thinking of Microsoft Copilot, but code completion is provided by Github Copilot, so it'll need its own key. Which will also be labeled Copilot.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by choilive »

flkiwi wrote: post #160

I'm not a developer, but I use Zed for a lot of things that would be ripe for "AI" application in the current bubble. I, however, have exactly zero use for AI in those cases, and will reconsider any application that pushes AI. It's both that I do not want to use AI features but also (a) I am prohibited from doing so and (b) the focus on deploying AI solutions raises serious concerns about a product's focus on and sup…

You can turn all of the AI features off via the settings.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by [deleted] »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #53
mihaaly wrote: post #39

The sensitive readers please be advised, quite a bit of a rant and angry reactions coming in an overreacting style, please stop here if you are of the sensitive type. The comments are unrelated to this particular product but aimed at the universal approach of the broad topic nowadays. Zero intent of offending anyone specific person is attempted. I am fed up with all these predicting what I want to do. Badly!! Don't g…

I think there may be a good point here, but it's buried in a wall of poorly-written text and inappropriate references to your relationship problems.

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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

Just to clarify, you can run as many LSPs in a given file type as you want.

Common features like completions, diagnostics, and auto-formatting will multiplex to all of the LSPs.

Admittedly, there are certain features that currently only use one LSP: inlay hints and document highlights are examples. For which LSP features is multi-server support important to you? It shouldn't be too hard to generalize.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by gizmo »

computerthings wrote: post #135
gizmo wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you fight the system you're not going to have a good time. For incremental improvements (faster grep, mixed-language syntax highlighting) you get the benefits for free. You don't have to change anything about the way you work. Revolutionary/disruptive technologies are not like that. They demand that the world adapts to them. They demand you change. Almost anywhere you can go by foot you can get faster with a horse…

Colonizers demand you change. Things make life better for people need to just exist. You just need to see your neighbor enjoying it to want yourself some of that. If you need to make changes for that, you'll ask what changes those are, and make them, if the trade-offs are worth it. If you need to scold people for being backwards for not accepting your great gift, it's not a great gift. > AI tools are amazing. You jus…

Technological change is like a force of nature. It's not polite. It doesn't care about your or your neighbor's preferences. It doesn't present itself as a gift. It doesn't even matter whether AI is harmful or beneficial because AI is here to stay regardless. You may detest AI but it will still become ubiquitous and you will be forced to adapt to this new reality. The history of the world is in a sense a history of technology. Some countries adapt and other countries get left behind, but no country can escape the rippling influence of change.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by guipsp »

afandian wrote: post #83
aqueueaqueue wrote: post #2

Ah that's a model that can run on a shitty old PC right. Like the idea of tools being local again.

Zed doesn't run on the PC you describe. It needs a modern GPU that supports Vulkan (not for AI, just to show text on the screen). I liked Zed so much I bought a new graphics card! https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/discussions/23623

I have sympathy for the reporter, but that CPU is literally 10 years old.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by brookst »

SkiFire13 wrote: post #185
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

Even if you know how much it costs, how can you be sure they won't increase the price later on?

Is there anything worthwhile that costs the same now that it did 50 years ago?
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