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Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by yurishimo »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #37
Mashimo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> to indent some code. Why are you manually indenting code? I don't remember ever doing that in IDEA or VS Code for ~~python,~~ java or ts. Edit: I borked about python, my bad.

Isn't indentation 'non deterministic' in Python? E.g. if I have the following: if (foo): bar() hum() how can anything other than a human decide if that 3rd line should be indented as it is or by one more level?

And this is one reason I still don't understand the use of python in large teams!

I suppose with very good tests, you might be able to catch something like this, but it seems impossible to me how a PR reviewer might catch a "bug" like this and not just assume that it's intentional.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by boxed »

ljm wrote: post #6
boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

I actually wish more editors had emacs style indenting where hitting tab anywhere on the line would re-indent it or otherwise cycle through indent levels if it was unclear, especially because you’re unlikely to get copilot suggestions in the middle of a word. Plus, it doesn’t break if there’s a syntax error elsewhere in the file.

Oh, didn't know about that. That makes a lot of sense. Reminds me of how hitting cmd+c on a line in PyCharm copies the entire line if there is no selection. Because what else would make sense?

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by boxed »

MaikuMori wrote: post #50
boxed wrote: post #3

I tried CoPilot a while and my biggest gripe was tab for accepting the suggestion. I very often got a ton of AI garbage when I was just trying to indent some code. Tab just doesn't seem like the proper interface for something like this.

Doesn't exactly fix the issue, bout you can cancel the suggestion with ESC and then press Tab. Changing the shortcut should be possible, but I haven't tried.

It's a timing issue too. Your hand can be travelling to the keyboard and between that and registering in the OS the AI suggestion inserted itself inbetween.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by viraptor »

lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

With this feature they're competing with the features Cursor had for quite a while now, so I would expect a price competition there. That means close to $20 /mth. (windsurf without that feature is $15)

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by matt-p »

viraptor wrote: post #74
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

With this feature they're competing with the features Cursor had for quite a while now, so I would expect a price competition there. That means close to $20 /mth. (windsurf without that feature is $15)

I would probably pay 100 quite happily for cursor, don't tell them .

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by greener_grass »

When developing something I tend to have lots of programs open:

- The editor

- Several terminal windows

- Some docs

- GitHub PRs

- AWS console

- Admin tools like PgAdmin

- Teams, Slack, etc.

When screen-sharing with Zed, do I only get to share the editor?

Because (clunky as they are) video call apps let me share everything and this is table-stakes for collaboration.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by d_tr »

lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

> Other than that for anyone wanting to try Zed:

Also, no support for debugging yet.

Re: Zed now predicts your next edit with Zeta, our new open model

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Post by urschrei »

mstade wrote: post #66
lionkor wrote: post #47

> Edit prediction won't be free forever, but right now we're just excited to share and learn. I love Zed, and I'm happy to pay for AI stuff, but I won't be using this until they are done with their rug pull. Once I know how much it costs, I can decide if I want to try integrating it into my workflow. Only THEN will I want to try it, and would be interested in a limited free trial, even just 24 hours. Considering I've…

> - You can only run one LSP per file type, so your Rust will work fine, your C++, too, your Angular will not. As a web developer that's an immediate deal breaker. I use Sublime today and being able to run multiple LSP servers per file is a huge boon, it turns a very capable text editor into a total powerhouse. The way it's set up in Sublime with configuration options that can be applied very broadly or very specific…

I'm not a regular Zed user, but this isn't true: I simultaneously ran the Ruff and Pyright LSPs when I used it last week.
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