OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5 • Hacker News Board

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by xyzAbc_ » Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 8:39 PM UTC

jasonthorsness wrote: post #6

rvz wrote: post #4

> After that, a top goal for us is to unify o-series models and GPT-series models. In summary: * GPT-4.5 will be the last non-chain of thought model to be released. * GPT-5 is (GPT-4.5 + o3) with multi-modal and reasoning. * Plus subscribers will be able to run GPT-5 at a higher level of intelligence. * Pro subscribers will be able to run GPT-5 at an even higher level of intelligence. These models will incorporate vo…

"weeks/months" I think referred to GPT-4.5 in weeks, GPT-5 in months "It should be why is he announcing this now and what is Sam still not telling you." - I don't think there is anything mysterious here? People constantly spam him on Twitter asking for roadmap/wen next release.

Yeah I also don’t get it why this is considered suspicious. Can someone please clarify?

It is also not that different compared to previous announce and release cycles other than gpt5 being their flagship model e.g. sora and o3 mini have been demoed weeks before the release

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by bijant » Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 9:01 PM UTC

So if you subscribed to "pro" because Sam said o3 and o3 pro would be available to ChatGPT pro subscribers by the end of February you are out of luck...

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by simonw » Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 11:07 PM UTC

Great to see OpenAI acknowledge how difficult their stuff has got to use at this point:

> We want AI to “just work” for you; we realize how complicated our model and product offerings have gotten.

> We hate the model picker as much as you do and want to return to magic unified intelligence.

Using their stuff effectively right now requires you to pick between GPT-4o, GPT-4o with scheduled tasks, o1, o3-mini and o3-mini-high... and then understand which tools (Deep Research, DALL-E, Code Interpreter, Web search, Canvas) are available for which models and what each of those tools will let you do.

And o1 will pretend to run Code Interpreter even though it doesn't have access to that tool yet! https://chatgpt.com/share/677420e4-8854-8006-8940-9bc30b7088...

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by fnqi8ckfek » Thu, Feb 13, 2025, 12:29 AM UTC

simonw wrote: post #13

Great to see OpenAI acknowledge how difficult their stuff has got to use at this point: > We want AI to “just work” for you; we realize how complicated our model and product offerings have gotten. > We hate the model picker as much as you do and want to return to magic unified intelligence. Using their stuff effectively right now requires you to pick between GPT-4o, GPT-4o with scheduled tasks, o1, o3-mini and o3-min…

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Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by nahco314 » Thu, Feb 13, 2025, 1:26 AM UTC

I think this means that the cost of cutting-edge models such as o3 pro has become too high, and that ordinary users can no longer use them freely. I fear that, even though it is clear that smarter models are optimal, OpenAI will use cheaper models for its own convenience.

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by LgLasagnaModel » Thu, Feb 13, 2025, 6:27 AM UTC

simonw wrote: post #13

Great to see OpenAI acknowledge how difficult their stuff has got to use at this point: > We want AI to “just work” for you; we realize how complicated our model and product offerings have gotten. > We hate the model picker as much as you do and want to return to magic unified intelligence. Using their stuff effectively right now requires you to pick between GPT-4o, GPT-4o with scheduled tasks, o1, o3-mini and o3-min…

Well, different humans have different capabilities and we have to choose which one we want to talk to depending on what we are trying to accomplish. Therefore these tools are as good as or better than humans in every possible way. Stop being a hater. ;)

Re: OpenAI Roadmap Update for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5

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Post by maleldil » Thu, Feb 13, 2025, 6:23 PM UTC

jasonthorsness wrote: post #8

ratg13 wrote: post #7

No more model picker, just “smart”, “smarter”, and “smartest” The future is bright /s

I just hope they keep the fixed-price monthly subscriptions over a pay-as-you-go or some kind of "billable hours" type of model.

Does it really matter when they're gating their most powerful models with heavy limits on Plus users? You can barely use o3-mini-high for a couple of hours without getting limited for literal days.