Fewer students are enrolling in doctoral degrees
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#2Blaming "High living costs" is like blaming the victim of a theft for carrying something of value in the first place.
Come on use the words that are actually plaguing PhD programs, exploitation of cheap labor and minimum pay for working endless hours
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#3it's a huge waste of life time, family life and money; but it can be fun if you are a no-life, or a Billy no-mates
on the other side, you see the world, you travel payed by the taxpayers and you meet curious people. and, of course, it might be intellectually fulfilling.
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#4The simple answer is they have low market value and aren’t a good investment for anyone - the student or the nation. Yes we need some researchers but not as many as we train.
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#5If you are high skill enough to do a PhD in anything meaningful, why enter into an open-ended low-paid work contract with a professor with no definite end-date on when the PhD is granted? An american has even less incentive, as the reward of a work permit is not on the other side.
Only reason should be that you want to be a professor, research can be done in private companies without this license. 95% of a PhD is worth as much as 0%.
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#6Blaming "High living costs" is like blaming the victim of a theft for carrying something of value in the first place. Come on use the words that are actually plaguing PhD programs, exploitation of cheap labor and minimum pay for working endless hours
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#7Maybe a correction is needed. Academia has become so gamified. It's supposed to be about ideas, truth, beauty. Too many are in it for the prestige, which has ironically made it less prestigious.
Very few true eccentrics left.
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#8If you are high skill enough to do a PhD in anything meaningful, why enter into an open-ended low-paid work contract with a professor with no definite end-date on when the PhD is granted? An american has even less incentive, as the reward of a work permit is not on the other side. Only reason should be that you want to be a professor, research can be done in private companies without this license. 95% of a PhD is wor…
Often private companies list a PhD as a requirement for research roles
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#9The simple answer is they have low market value and aren’t a good investment for anyone - the student or the nation. Yes we need some researchers but not as many as we train.
They have a high market value outside of academia. Inside academia though they are all underpaid and overworked, and the modern version of “tenure” might carry prestige but it doesn’t carry the privilege it once did.
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#10Blaming "High living costs" is like blaming the victim of a theft for carrying something of value in the first place. Come on use the words that are actually plaguing PhD programs, exploitation of cheap labor and minimum pay for working endless hours
"entering into a work contract is theft"
what's plaguing phd programs is the lack of value for attaining a phd. the labor is cheap because it isn't valuable. the hours are endless because the output is low. victim mentality infects everything