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5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

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Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#91

>Regulators may also have to consider whether fewer operators may be better for a country, with perhaps only a single underlying fixed and mobile network in many places—just as utilities for electricity, water, gas, and the like are often structured around single (or a limited set of) operators. There are no words to describe how stupid this is.

Clearly you did not like playing Monopoly as child.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#93
post #77

> Of course, sophisticated representations of entire 3D scenes for large groups of users interacting with one another in-world could conceivably push bandwidth requirements up. But at this point, we’re getting into Matrix-like imagined technologies without any solid evidence to suggest a good 4G or 5G connection wouldn’t meet the tech’s bandwidth demands. Open-world games such as Cyberpunk 2077 already have hours-lon…

How many people consuming these services are doing so over a mobile network?

For my area all the mobile network home internet options offer plenty of speed, but the bandwidth limitations are a dealbreaker.

Everyone I know still uses their cable/FTTH as their main internet, and mobile network as a hotspot if their main ISP goes down.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#94

>Regulators may also have to consider whether fewer operators may be better for a country, with perhaps only a single underlying fixed and mobile network in many places—just as utilities for electricity, water, gas, and the like are often structured around single (or a limited set of) operators. There are no words to describe how stupid this is.

I think that it should be run as a public service like utilities and should be as cheap as humanly possible. Why not?

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#95

>Regulators may also have to consider whether fewer operators may be better for a country, with perhaps only a single underlying fixed and mobile network in many places—just as utilities for electricity, water, gas, and the like are often structured around single (or a limited set of) operators. There are no words to describe how stupid this is.

I think that it should be run as a public service like utilities and should be as cheap as humanly possible. Why not?

My public utility is bad at its job because it has literally zero incentive to be cheap, and thus my utilities are expensive

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#96
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's any of that have to do with 5G? On 2 bars of 5G right now and I get 650Mbit download speed, it's significantly faster than 4G.

The last bit is just stuff I wanted to whine about. I obviously know it is faster, you don't need to explain that concept. I have just never had need of any significant internet speed on my phone. I don't download things, and only sometimes stream video. Most of the time I am just checking emails, or calendars, or something trivial like that. Unless I do some kind of benchmark, I can't notice the difference between 4…

> I have just never had need of any significant internet speed on my phone. I don't download things, and only sometimes stream video.

But other people do.

And the main resource that is limited with cell service is air time: there are only so many frequencies, and only so many people can send/receive at the same time.

So if someone wants to watch a video video, and a particular segment is (say) 100M, then if a device can do 100M/s, it will take 1s to do that operation: that's a time period when other people may not be able to do anything. But if the device can do 500M/s, then that segment can come down in 0.2s, which means there's now 0.8s worth of time for other people to do other things.

You're not going to see any difference if you're watching the video (or streaming music, or check mail), but collectively everyone can get their 'share' of the resource much more quickly.

Faster speeds allow better resource utilization because devices can get on and off the air in a shorter amount of time.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#97

>Regulators may also have to consider whether fewer operators may be better for a country, with perhaps only a single underlying fixed and mobile network in many places—just as utilities for electricity, water, gas, and the like are often structured around single (or a limited set of) operators. There are no words to describe how stupid this is.

They should study Canada. We’re already running that experiment.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#98
post #77

> Of course, sophisticated representations of entire 3D scenes for large groups of users interacting with one another in-world could conceivably push bandwidth requirements up. But at this point, we’re getting into Matrix-like imagined technologies without any solid evidence to suggest a good 4G or 5G connection wouldn’t meet the tech’s bandwidth demands. Open-world games such as Cyberpunk 2077 already have hours-lon…

Few people play games built for mobiles, let alone looking to play GTA6 on an iPhone

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#99

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Yeah? We're getting 30-50 mbit/sec per connection on a good day.

In downtown Columbus Ohio the only internet provider (Spectrum) maxes out at maybe 5 mbps up (down 50-100x that), it's not just a rural issue, non-competitive ISPs even in urban cities want you to pay for business accounts to get any kind of upload whatsoever

Is it really a technical capacity issue, or just market segmentation? Usually, it's possible to get so-called business service with higher upload bandwidth, even at residential addresses.

Re: 5G networks meet consumer needs as mobile data growth slows

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it should be run as a public service like utilities and should be as cheap as humanly possible. Why not?

My public utility is bad at its job because it has literally zero incentive to be cheap, and thus my utilities are expensive

A private electric grid is a nightmare. Look at Texas. People pay more, and they get less coverage. It's worse by every metric. The conversation should revolve around, how can we fix the government so that it isn't 5 corporations in a trench coat who systematically defund public utilities and social safety nets in hopes of breaking it so they can privatize it and make billions sucking up tax payer money while doing no work. See the billions in tax funding to ATT, Google, etc... to put in fiber internet that they just pocketed the cash and did nothing.
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