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Re: ElevenReader

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Post by neom »

zaptrem wrote: post #60
masteruvpuppetz wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> the voice can really start to go off the rails. Do you mean the AI gets tired?

In autoregressive models error accumulates over time. He likely means the voice starts to make odd sounds/gets lower quality. It would be really interesting if OP could share a clip of this phenomenon!

Various different things can happen, it would take me quite some time to dig up examples but at least with elevenlabs you don't get the clicks and pops you get like on notebook LM for example. 11labs instability comes in the forms of intonation, pitch, accent, garbled words or even once language. I've only seen it happen in the 3k+ words gen's I've done, usually actually around the 75% point of the narration of whatever I've converted, and on average lasting a couple of seconds top.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by add-sub-mul-div »

brookst wrote: post #109
Martinussen wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't apply to all situations, but "replace things that were done by humans" in arts can absolutely be a loss by itself. Making graphics/speech/video a commodity doesn't replace designers, voice actors, or directors, but we've definitely see it can directly harm them and the people that enjoy their work. > can't find better things to do, such that it makes them poorer, or anti-social its a loss I feel like this mis…

How do you feel about what word processors did to the typist career?

How do you feel about replacing general labor, period, and doing so for a class that no longer maintains a semblance of a social safety net? Do you think there's a difference between displacing one profession and displacing most professions at once?

Do you people ever step out of the abstract and think about the actual context you're living in?

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by rickcarlino »

I wish there was a reader app that was serious about text speech. This is not it, unfortunately. Reader apps need to focus on a text to speech experience that is identical to a music player so that you can use the app while in hands free situations. The app is also hard to use as a “read it later” tool on iOS.

I was really hoping they would fix these issues by now because it was promising. This app truly does feel like a portfolio demo app for a text to speech engine company rather than an actual reader app.

UPDATE: yes, I have actually used the app, no it does not work well. See replies for details.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by rickcarlino »

rickcarlino wrote: post #113

I wish there was a reader app that was serious about text speech. This is not it, unfortunately. Reader apps need to focus on a text to speech experience that is identical to a music player so that you can use the app while in hands free situations. The app is also hard to use as a “read it later” tool on iOS. I was really hoping they would fix these issues by now because it was promising. This app truly does feel li…

It’s interesting that they show people going on runs and driving cars in their demo videos. I’m pretty sure nobody developing that app has actually gone on a run or driven a car while using their app.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by wrsh07 »

rickcarlino wrote: post #114
rickcarlino wrote: post #113

I wish there was a reader app that was serious about text speech. This is not it, unfortunately. Reader apps need to focus on a text to speech experience that is identical to a music player so that you can use the app while in hands free situations. The app is also hard to use as a “read it later” tool on iOS. I was really hoping they would fix these issues by now because it was promising. This app truly does feel li…

It’s interesting that they show people going on runs and driving cars in their demo videos. I’m pretty sure nobody developing that app has actually gone on a run or driven a car while using their app.

Wow really? I use it all the time for ~equivalent activities

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by wrsh07 »

neom wrote: post #111
zaptrem wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In autoregressive models error accumulates over time. He likely means the voice starts to make odd sounds/gets lower quality. It would be really interesting if OP could share a clip of this phenomenon!

Various different things can happen, it would take me quite some time to dig up examples but at least with elevenlabs you don't get the clicks and pops you get like on notebook LM for example. 11labs instability comes in the forms of intonation, pitch, accent, garbled words or even once language. I've only seen it happen in the 3k+ words gen's I've done, usually actually around the 75% point of the narration of whate…

Yeah - I've experienced this with eleven reader (I don't think you can gen text this long anymore using the reader app, lol) but switching voices fixed it for me

I can go back and try to repro and get a recording....

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by Kerbiter »

darkwater wrote: post #49

I know I'm growing old but this is the kind of tech application that I don't like. Arts should be the last thing to be 100% fully done by a program. Enhancing capabilities in artists? Hell yeah. Replacing completely voice actors? No, thanks.

Would've been valid if TTS was, indeed, art, but it's not. Audiobooks won't be able to replace TTS in e-readers just because they need to be produced first. And I don't think my mom would be able to find an audiobook of all the Russian books, or, especially, articles she's reading, and especially synchronise it with the actual book in her reader app.

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by billbrown »

rickcarlino wrote: post #113

I wish there was a reader app that was serious about text speech. This is not it, unfortunately. Reader apps need to focus on a text to speech experience that is identical to a music player so that you can use the app while in hands free situations. The app is also hard to use as a “read it later” tool on iOS. I was really hoping they would fix these issues by now because it was promising. This app truly does feel li…

I find Readwise Reader to be a great RIL tool and I've used their TTS on my phone. I can't say I use it enough to know if it addresses your needs so I share this as "this might work for you." https://docs.readwise.io/reader/docs/faqs/text-to-speech

Re: ElevenReader

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Post by billbrown »

benrutter wrote: post #44

I've been looking for a good and convenient way to read papers that are published in PDF for a while. Ideally, I'd be able to strip out the text content and send it to my kindle in readable form. Since apparently that's science fiction, this looks like a really good plan B! Will definitely give it a go.

Readwise Reader does PDFs very well (and apparently can do TTS on them, but I've never tried that). https://docs.readwise.io/reader/docs/faqs/text-to-speech
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