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Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

easyThrowaway wrote: post #29
eitland wrote: post #18

I stopped paying (and using it) a couple of years ago. I have a lifetime account so my bookmarks are still there. Reason: I had started paying yearly for the archive option and it stopped working and I tried and failed several times to get in contact with support. I now use raindrop.io, it is reasonably priced, has api, lets me import pinboard bookmarks, and unlike pinboard.in it still works for me.

> Reason: I had started paying yearly for the archive option and it stopped working and I tried and failed several times to get in contact with support. Same. Archival stopped working, got a bunch of very confrontative replies from the admin and felt it wasn't worth my time to argue with him. By the way, didn't notice that raindrop.io started offering a permanent library. That's great. I wish ReadKit supported it too…

It's a shame there isn't more of an open community around pinboard. Some time ago, I tried to get an answer about a very basic API detail (the format of a token, IIRC) and couldn't get it. I love the site itself, but I've been motivated to move off to my own local system for a while—and I'm slowly doing just that!

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by kappuchino »

easygenes wrote: post #12
pitzips wrote: post #4

The design of Pinboard exists in a similar but self hosted service called linkding [1]. I've been self hosting with Docker for a few years with no issues I can recall. Just checked and it does have the responsive forms as well. [1]: https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding

Cool! Is there a straightforward way to import your Pinboard?

Yes, if you count the export from Pinboard to Bookmark.html and then import to Linkding for once.

One weird thing though is, that Linkding does not have marking a bookmark "read" on first click: This is the most useful feature on Pinboard for me.

Via the pinboard-bookmarklet I pile all the links I come across, then mass read them and can track what's been read because the first click marks them on Pinboard.

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by kappuchino »

blangk wrote: post #15

I was lucky to get in early and buy a lifetime perpetual account, otherwise I probably wouldn't still use it.

Wild, that its been 15+ years since then. The price model was "it gets more expensive (the one time price) the more people join". I think it was less than 20 dollars for me, even way less.

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by michaelt »

vasco wrote: post #6

> I’ve also had some issues in the past with the owner of Pinboard. I can’t recall the exact details of their political or other thoughts now, and don’t plan to look for them, but the site fell into my mental bucket of “services to reluctantly not recommend” a while back. > Mental note: I need a bigger bucket. This section really makes the author come across as "a hater", specially the last sentence. Like those peopl…

> This section really makes the author come across as "a hater", specially the last sentence. Like those people you meet that have a problem with everything.

Personally, it's just extremely hard to get me to recommend anything.

I use ubuntu+nvidia as my daily driver, at home and at work. But would I recommend it? Well....

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by idlewords »

People should use whatever site they find most useful. But I find the specific criticisms here baffling. To wit:

* "The site has barely changed in years/decades". That's kind of the point of the site! People ancient enough to remember Pinboard origins know that I cloned it off of del.icio.us after Yahoo made that site useless through repeated redesigns. The value proposition of Pinboard is that it endures, just like the stuff you archive there.

* The "add URL form is not responsive". I fixed this in early January, along with a raft of other updates targeted at phone users, as the author himself acknowledges. I've been working to get things looking neater on phones for a while now; bug reports about this are especially welcome.

* They don't like me and my politics are bad, for reasons they can't remember or articulate.

Again, you can dislike me and my website for any reason you want, but if you're going to publicly attack my livelihood, do it with more substance.

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

Philpax wrote: post #27
hombre_fatal wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a link to someone calling someone a -phobe on the internet. Worth less than zero.

Ok, here's a blog post that transcludes an example of Maciej's transphobia from last year: https://schwarztech.net/snippets/oh-look-misplaced-transphob...

Does it count as transphobia if your target is cis? On the one hand, such comments are motivated by a belief that trans people should be banned from a thing; on the other, we could just as easily view this through the lens of misogyny. Both lenses give the same explanation: a woman isn't stereotypically "womanly enough", therefore cruelty.

Can we draw a hard line between transphobia and misogyny? (Or is that a wrong question?)

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

#38

Post by idlewords »

stringsandchars wrote: post #11

I like the fact that there are no new features. The service is mature and doesn't need any changes. Also I use a bookmarklet on mobile (in a more easily-customized iOS browser called iCab), so I have no problems with responsive styling. Sometimes a minimum amount of effort is needed to make a service work the way you want it. For a while a few years ago the service was unstable, but I haven't noticed any problems rec…

Pinboard has been up and running for 15 years. How many more years would I need to run the site before you'd decide I'm not going to shut it on a whim? Because I'll totally do that, just going on impulse right now.

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by idlewords »

tomaskafka wrote: post #10
notpushkin wrote: post #3

I’m a huge fan of Pinboard owner’s talk on website obesity [1], and I like the brutal minimalistic look, so I’ve wanted to try it out for a while now. I am having second thoughts now: no responsive styles, even for the one feature your users are likely to be using on the go, is pretty frustrating at least. [1]: https://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm

I would also like there to be an official mobile app for saving links, and browser extensions that actually work and reliably save the pages. I like Maciej, but not adding these in the past like 7 years feels more lazy than minimalistic to me :/.

The Chrome extension was last updated a month ago. The whole site went quietly responsive over the last two years. I beg people to align their criticism with reality.

I plead guilty to not building a mobile app, because I don't know how to build mobile apps. Right now I'm trying to kick a better API version out the door so that more capable people than me can.

Re: No Longer Posting to Pinboard

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Post by idlewords »

Philpax wrote: post #16
antithesis-nl wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Seems unlikely that someone with this profile [0] would be an oligarch booster. It seems more likely that it's about Maciej's slow rightwards shift [1]. [0] https://www.gyford.com/phil/about/ [1] https://bsky.app/profile/anildash.com/post/3lhkkre2h422z

I encourage curious people to dig in to what [1] is referring to, and form their own opinion.
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