I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
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Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#2There really must be something less bloated for local static pages. Embedded SQLite and react just for a few nested table queries? Come on, js has maps and hashtables. React for displaying generated content? My DOM inserter is half a page, and loads instantly
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#3I never made anything fancy, but I never made anything for the web that I can't run locally. If I can't just sync the changed files to the web server and overwrite the DB (which for my use cases takes seconds), I'm not interested. If it needs to be in the domain root, I'm not interested. A bunch of files using relative paths and a config that checks for running on localhost and points to the local DB or the production one, respectively. That's it (okay plus the domain and a few other things so cookies etc. work, but describing it would take longer than making it), that's all I want out of the web kthxbai. I'm basically stuck in 2000 and I love it.
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#4There really must be something less bloated for local static pages. Embedded SQLite and react just for a few nested table queries? Come on, js has maps and hashtables. React for displaying generated content? My DOM inserter is half a page, and loads instantly
The "static page" is referring to https://localfirstweb.dev/. TinyBase, the tool with embedded SQLite and React support (among other things) is for reactive (non-static) web applications. Native JavaScript language feature like maps are not an adequate replacement for the functionality offered by TinyBase.
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#5There really must be something less bloated for local static pages. Embedded SQLite and react just for a few nested table queries? Come on, js has maps and hashtables. React for displaying generated content? My DOM inserter is half a page, and loads instantly
The "static page" is referring to https://localfirstweb.dev/ . TinyBase, the tool with embedded SQLite and React support (among other things) is for reactive (non-static) web applications. Native JavaScript language feature like maps are not an adequate replacement for the functionality offered by TinyBase.
What I said. Local embedded SQLite and React is not tiny, it's huge. And slow.
And native JS only is adequate for tiny first web. Clients do care about ms vs 5s load-times.
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#6Hey browser makers, please allow file:// URLS to actually be able to load other files in the same directory without giving a CORS error. You can't even run a JS file from the same directory! That's what's really killing "local first".
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#7Hey browser makers, please allow file:// URLS to actually be able to load other files in the same directory without giving a CORS error. You can't even run a JS file from the same directory! That's what's really killing "local first".
That and, bring back the "new tab" custom URL, and, a way to securely host local servers without root but also without just praying that another app doesn't port-squat me
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#8Hey browser makers, please allow file:// URLS to actually be able to load other files in the same directory without giving a CORS error. You can't even run a JS file from the same directory! That's what's really killing "local first".
I have made a notebook environment inside a single html file. You have to map dependencies in an importmap to blob URLs and it works. I have a single file website online. And you can click download to play with it locally
https://tomlarkworthy.moldable.app/index.html
You can turn off network and the download works.
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
The "static page" is referring to https://localfirstweb.dev/ . TinyBase, the tool with embedded SQLite and React support (among other things) is for reactive (non-static) web applications. Native JavaScript language feature like maps are not an adequate replacement for the functionality offered by TinyBase.
What I said. Local embedded SQLite and React is not tiny, it's huge. And slow. And native JS only is adequate for tiny first web. Clients do care about ms vs 5s load-times.
The react module for TinyBase is optional, and if you're just using their store module you only add 5.3kb gzipped to your final bundle, hence the name TinyBase.
I also don't think you understand the complexity of the features that TinyBase is offering. It's possible you don't personally need these features, but critiquing the software for not being totally minimalistic is a bit silly.
Re: I wrote a static web page and accidentally started a community (2023)
#10Seems need pointer and example. What is this mobile at your fingertips tip local but share …