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Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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post #49

It continues to surprise me why Backblaze still trades at a fraction of its peak COVID share price. A well-managed company with solid fundamentals, strong IP and growing.

Because they are bleeding money and they must sell stock to stay in business. Cool product, but I personally don’t want to buy something that doesn’t turn a profit and has negative free cash flow.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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After couple failed hard disks in my old NVR, I’ve come to realize heat is the biggest enemy of hard disks. The NVR had to provide power to the POE cameras, ran video transcoding, and constantly writing to the disk. It generated a lot of heat. The disks were probably warped due to the heat and the disk heads crashed onto the surface, causing data loss.

For my new NVR, the POE power supply is separated out to a powered switch, the newer CPU can do hardware video encoding, and I used SSD for first stage writing and hard disks as secondary backup. The heat has gone way down. So far things have run well. I know constant rewriting on SSD is bad, but the MTBF of SSD indicates it will be a number of years before failing. It’s an acceptable risk.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

#53
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RAID doesn't cover all of the scenarios as offsite backup, such as massive electrical power surge, fire, flood, theft or other things causing total destruction of the RAID array. Ideally you'd want a setup that has local storage redundancy in some form of RAID and offsite backup.

In fact for home users backup is WAY more important than RAID, because your NAS down for a (restore time) is not that important, but data loss is forever.

For essential personal data you're right, but a very common use case for a home NAS is a media server. The library is usually non-essential data - annoying to lose, but not critical. Combined with its large size, it's usually hard to justify a full offsite backup. RAID offers a cost-effective way to give it some protection, when the alternative is nothing

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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Based on the data, it seems they have 4.4 petabytes of storage under management. Neat. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E4MS84SbSwWILVPAgeIi...

A petabyte is 1,000 terabytes. 4.4 petabytes wouldn't come anywhere near Backblaze's storage needs.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact for home users backup is WAY more important than RAID, because your NAS down for a (restore time) is not that important, but data loss is forever.

For essential personal data you're right, but a very common use case for a home NAS is a media server. The library is usually non-essential data - annoying to lose, but not critical. Combined with its large size, it's usually hard to justify a full offsite backup. RAID offers a cost-effective way to give it some protection, when the alternative is nothing

For a number of people I know, they don't do any offsite backup of their home media server. It would not result in any possibly-catastrophic personal financial hassles/struggles/real data loss if a bunch of movies and music disappeared overnight.

The amount of personally generated sensitive data that doesn't fit on a laptop's onboard storage (which should all be backed up offsite as well) will usually fit on like a 12TB RAID-1 pair, which is easier to back up than 40TB+ of movies.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

#56
post #52

After couple failed hard disks in my old NVR, I’ve come to realize heat is the biggest enemy of hard disks. The NVR had to provide power to the POE cameras, ran video transcoding, and constantly writing to the disk. It generated a lot of heat. The disks were probably warped due to the heat and the disk heads crashed onto the surface, causing data loss. For my new NVR, the POE power supply is separated out to a powere…

That seems like a very poor chassis design on the part of the NVR manufacturer. The average modern 3.5" high capacity HDD doesn't generate that much heat. Even 'datacenter' HGST drives average around 5.5W and will top out at 7.8W TDP under maximum stress. Designing a case that uses relatively low rpm, quiet, 120 or 140mm 12VDC fans to pull air through it and cool six or eight hard drives isn't that difficult. In a midtower desktop PC case set up as a NAS with a low wattage CPU, used as a NAS, a single 140mm fan at the rear sucking air from front-to-back is often quite enough to cool eight 3.5" HDD.

But equipment designers keep trying to stuff things into spaces that are too small and use inadequate ventilation.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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It's not a best practice, but the last 10 years I've run my home server with a smaller faster drive for the OS and a single larger disk for bulk storage that I choose using Backblaze Drive Stats. None of have failed yet (fingers-crossed). I really trust their methodology and it's an extremely valuable resource for me as a consumer. My most recent drive is a WDC WUH722222ALE6L4 22TiB, and looking at the stats (albeit…

No RAID 0 for the bulk storage? What’s your disaster plan?

Surely you mean RAID 1? Or 5, 6, 10 perhaps?

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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It's not a best practice, but the last 10 years I've run my home server with a smaller faster drive for the OS and a single larger disk for bulk storage that I choose using Backblaze Drive Stats. None of have failed yet (fingers-crossed). I really trust their methodology and it's an extremely valuable resource for me as a consumer. My most recent drive is a WDC WUH722222ALE6L4 22TiB, and looking at the stats (albeit…

> WDC WUH722222ALE6L4 22TiB

Careful... that is 22 TB, not 22 TiB. Disk marketing still uses base 10. TiB is base 2.

22 TB = 20 TiB

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you're aware but consider putting another drive in for some flavor of RAID, it's a lot easier to rebuild a RAID than to rebuild data usually! Edit: By "some flavor" I mean hardware or software.

RAID doesn't cover all of the scenarios as offsite backup, such as massive electrical power surge, fire, flood, theft or other things causing total destruction of the RAID array. Ideally you'd want a setup that has local storage redundancy in some form of RAID and offsite backup.

for the home user backing up their own data, I honestly think that raid has limited utility.

If I have 3 disks to devote to backup, I'd rather have 1 local copy and two remote copies, vs 1 local copy with RAID and 1 remote copy without.

Re: Backblaze Drive Stats for 2024

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post #9

I had five Seagates fail in my Synology NAS in less than a year. Somebody suggested it was a "bad" firmware on that model, but I switched to WD and haven't had a single failure since.

Did you purchase them all at the same time from the same store? I've had a batch of SSDs fail from the same vendor / mfg timeframe. I started ordering a couple here and there form different vendors where possible. So far i've been lucky to get drives that aren't from the same batches. I tend to buy Exos from seagate and WD gold though so there's a bit of a premium tacked on.

No, that's the weird thing. Even the RMA models were failing. But sure enough, it wasn't just some incompatibility with the NAS because I tested them on PCs to confirm they were failing, and they were.
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