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Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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This could serve as a subplot for a sci-fi story: alien are trying for decades to contact by sending out encoded messages. Because the first sentinels are powerful AI, and only analyzed the data pattern, humanity was ignorant of the messages for decades. Until one day, a young astronomer played with the data and asked the AI to plot and visualize in many different ways, just for fun and suddenly realized the hidden i…

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Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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There actually is an episode of TNG similar to that. The society stopped being able to think for themselves, because the AI did all their thinking for them. Anything the AI didn’t know how to do, they didn’t know how to do. It was in season 1 or season 2.

The Machine Stops also touches on a lot of these ideas and was written in 1909! -- "The story describes a world in which most of the human population has lost the ability to live on the surface of the Earth. Each individual now lives in isolation below ground in a standard room, with all bodily and spiritual needs met by the omnipotent, global Machine. Travel is permitted but is unpopular and rarely necessary. Commun…

Thanks a lot for posting this, I read the whole thing after. These predictions would have been impressive enough in the 60s; to hear that this is coming from 1909 is astounding.

Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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can you say something redeemable about the plot that doesnt invoke "brought back the cast"?

no, because i didn't watch it. I've never really been into star trek. i watched a few of the movies - nemesis and the one before it, the jj one(s) and then i was done. If i can remember the review it was "this is a capstone on TNG and probably the entire franchise for most of the older fans" and the first two seasons being disregarded, seasons 3 is "passable"

sorry the you was more rhetorical than specifically directed at you!!

Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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The tool doesn't succeed at a reasonable task that humans can do. That's not PEBKAC, and warning people about it is a good thing. This type of analysis is not outside the purpose of the tool. You're making excuses at this point. Do you really think it would be wrong to add that capability in the future? It's a technical limitation, one that is far from obvious.

I think you think the llm is a magic box with an intelligent being inside that can magically do whatever you want it to, somehow. It is software. It has capabilities and limitations. Learn them, and use it appropriately. Or don't, you don't have to use it. But don't expect it to just do whatever you think it should do.

> It has capabilities and limitations. Learn them, and use it appropriately.

THAT IS THE POINT OF THE ARTICLE

If you can't figure that out, don't insult me.

Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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The Machine Stops also touches on a lot of these ideas and was written in 1909! -- "The story describes a world in which most of the human population has lost the ability to live on the surface of the Earth. Each individual now lives in isolation below ground in a standard room, with all bodily and spiritual needs met by the omnipotent, global Machine. Travel is permitted but is unpopular and rarely necessary. Commun…

Thanks a lot for posting this, I read the whole thing after. These predictions would have been impressive enough in the 60s; to hear that this is coming from 1909 is astounding.

Yeah it’s pretty wild, feels modern.

For a more recent recommendation - I also loved permutation city which was written in 1994 and pretty prescient about cloud computing.

Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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This is a serious spoiler, perhaps delete your comment and rephrase it?

A spoiler for a fifteen year old news story that describes this in the middle of the article, explaining what was already at the time a ten year old video, where my anecdote demonstrates that even prior warning isn't sufficient to see it?

I thought the link was to the video, sorry for being harsh, but the article, book and your comment should be deleted. The video is too great and spoilers make it less great.

Re: Are LLMs able to notice the “gorilla in the data”?

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Season 3 wasn't that bad.

yes it was. it was just so full of memberberries that everyone gave it a pass

No, it actually had a decent plot, characters and conclusion, unlike the first two seasons. They had plot and plot vessels but nothing else.

If you are old enough to memberberry, then you should be old enough to remember original Star Trek: The Next Generation first season was similarly bad.

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