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Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Their promise not to train on the conversations seemed to imply that conversations were private. It is disconcerting that they were not. The extent to which you need to look for loopholes in privacy guarantees these days is amazing.

I listened to an interview a while back with the researchers did this analysis. They developed privacy-preserving techniques, avoiding having to read user conversations directly. This is Anthropic we're talking about, they're rightly recognized as the 'ethical' AI company.

Words I typed into a service I paid for are now in a huggingface repo. Fuck that.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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post #116

I'd love to see this analysis done for ChatGPT, which has a much bigger 'consumer' marketshare. I'm also very wary of their analysis method, given classifiers-gonna-classify. We already see it in their example of someone asking why their game is crashing and it buckets them into Computer & Mathematical occupation. I'm guessing the original question was not that of a game developer but rather a game player, so can you…

Very wary. Not weary.

why not both?

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A mentor I respect memorably explained to young me that “it doesn’t matter how big the pot of soup, you can use the same size spoon to taste it.”

Sorry but that mentor has a small practical imagination, a pot can be so large that the top 3 feet that you reach with that spoon could be all oil

to push this analogy too far, that's because you didn't stir it well, not because the spoon is too small.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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This more or less confirms what I imagine most of us thought, AI is mostly used by engineers, or for engineering tasks. Makes sense, I wonder how much traffic comes from automated tasks (co-pilot, etc). Every time I read a report like this I do wonder if we'll ever see an ROI on LLMs. HUNDREDS of billions of dollars of spend, and 3 years in its still primarily the same crowd using it, and has yet to create a "killer"…

Daniel Rock has done some interesting work on the ROI of AI in general (also, I believe two of his papers are referenced in this study). Note that this doesn't explicitly restrict itself to covering LLMs, but... still a very interesting body of work.

https://www.danielianrock.com/research

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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This is why I cancelled my chatgpt subscription and moved to claude. Its kinda silly, but I feel like the products are about equivalent for my use case so I'd rather do business with a company that is acting in good (better?) faith.

That isn't silly, that's one of the only ways to exercise agency under hypercapitalism. I recently cancelled my Amazon Prime membership and got a Costco membership for the same reason. I don't get every product I want, but I'm also okay with that.

This has to be a meme. Costco is peak hypercapitalism lol.

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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I think the problem is the data. Software engineering is a weird niche that is both a high paying job and something you can almost self-teach from widely available free online content. If not self-teach, you can rely on free online content for troubleshooting, examples, etc. A lot of other industries/jobs are more of an apprenticeship model, with little data and even less freely available on open internet.

> Software engineering is a weird niche that is both a high paying job and something you can almost self-teach If you meant programming, I agree it could be self-taught, but not SE. SE is the set of techniques, practices, tools that we have collected over decades for producing multi-versioned software that meets a certain reliability rating. Not all of these is freely available online.

The vast majority of people learn this on the job. This is certainly not taught in schools (or is only barely scratched as a topic).

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Words I typed into a paid service are now public on a huggingface repo. I don't care if it is anonymized. Fuck that. I am deleting my account.

Uh, this isn't true at all. Did you actually look at the repo[1]? Only the metadata (i.e., LLM-generated task names and interaction classifications) have been made available.

[1] https://huggingface.co/datasets/Anthropic/EconomicIndex

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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post #108

This more or less confirms what I imagine most of us thought, AI is mostly used by engineers, or for engineering tasks. Makes sense, I wonder how much traffic comes from automated tasks (co-pilot, etc). Every time I read a report like this I do wonder if we'll ever see an ROI on LLMs. HUNDREDS of billions of dollars of spend, and 3 years in its still primarily the same crowd using it, and has yet to create a "killer"…

Claude is indeed far more familiar amongst software engineers. Google Gemini integration into their docs/sheets/slides and Gmail perhaps will show different demographics in a few months, and that is yet before we heard from OpenAI.

You may be right, but I doubt it. I suspect similar usage metrics for Gemini and OpenAI

Re: The Anthropic Economic Index

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't silly, that's one of the only ways to exercise agency under hypercapitalism. I recently cancelled my Amazon Prime membership and got a Costco membership for the same reason. I don't get every product I want, but I'm also okay with that.

This has to be a meme. Costco is peak hypercapitalism lol.

Could you say more?
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