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Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

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Post by jamager »

naet wrote: post #23

I tried a little Japanese (the second language I know best). Not sure where the content comes from but the translations were wrong, the vocabulary was strange, and otherwise the cards did not work out for me. Seems like they were auto generated via AI or google translate or something, in any case they were not accurate or natural sounding. Maybe other languages are better but I wouldn't know enough to tell. Anki is o…

Can i get your feedback on https://thehardway.app?

I tried the best I can to test specially Japanese and Chinese without speaking those languages myself.

the app uses real human content (audio and text) for the most part, so hopefully it comes natural enough. there is still some AI though

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

#33

Post by sdrothrock »

jamager wrote: post #31
naet wrote: post #23

I tried a little Japanese (the second language I know best). Not sure where the content comes from but the translations were wrong, the vocabulary was strange, and otherwise the cards did not work out for me. Seems like they were auto generated via AI or google translate or something, in any case they were not accurate or natural sounding. Maybe other languages are better but I wouldn't know enough to tell. Anki is o…

Can i get your feedback on https://thehardway.app ? I tried the best I can to test specially Japanese and Chinese without speaking those languages myself. the app uses real human content (audio and text) for the most part, so hopefully it comes natural enough. there is still some AI though

Just dropped in my email to try out the Japanese. I'll let you know.

I'm not really sure what to do with this -- I thought you wanted someone to take a look at some Japanese content, but I can't find any in the app/tutorial.

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

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Post by jamager »

sdrothrock wrote: post #33
jamager wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can i get your feedback on https://thehardway.app ? I tried the best I can to test specially Japanese and Chinese without speaking those languages myself. the app uses real human content (audio and text) for the most part, so hopefully it comes natural enough. there is still some AI though

Just dropped in my email to try out the Japanese. I'll let you know. I'm not really sure what to do with this -- I thought you wanted someone to take a look at some Japanese content, but I can't find any in the app/tutorial.

thanks! right, there is no content. you build your library along the way, the feedback request is about autogenerated flashcards (basically you create and import content and then it autogenerates flashcards for you)

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

#36

Post by jarrett-ye »

jamager wrote: post #29
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #15

I'd have to see some serious stats to believe whatever SRS algorithm you use is better than FSRS (which is supported in Anki). Stats for FSRS here (and elsewhere) [0]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Anki/comments/18csuer/fsrs_is_now_t...

not OP. I have a competing product with an ad-hoc algorithm that I 100% believe is better than FSRS (tested it for months or real practice) But what you ask is not feasible, neither I nor OP have 700 millions of reviews to stack up against FSRS. I have my own experience and a bunch of simulations, and if FSRS were better I would have switched to it. The reason in my case btw is that FSRS is generic, mine is tailor ma…

You don't need to beat FSRS with 700 millions of reviews. You can collect thousands of reviews for months and compare the ad-hoc algorithm with FSRS on those reviews.

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

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Post by jarrett-ye »

jamager wrote: post #30
marcusbuffett wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah as someone working on educational software, anything hand-rolling their own SRS is a pretty big red flag. Beating FSRS is going to be next to impossible, especially FSRS with parameters optimized from your users’ review history.

FSRS is so cargo-culted. It's just an algorithm, claiming that any algorithm can't be improved is ridiculous.

Actually, we have found some algorithms which outperform FSRS[1]. Unfortunately, it's hard to deploy them in user's local device.

[1] https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/srs-benchmark?tab=...

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

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Post by williamsss »

naet wrote: post #23

I tried a little Japanese (the second language I know best). Not sure where the content comes from but the translations were wrong, the vocabulary was strange, and otherwise the cards did not work out for me. Seems like they were auto generated via AI or google translate or something, in any case they were not accurate or natural sounding. Maybe other languages are better but I wouldn't know enough to tell. Anki is o…

All fair points of feedback. I use it for latin languages so getting a take on the quality of other languages is something I'll work on. Could you give me an example that it gave you that missed the mark?

I could have it output the deck into Anki I like that idea. I wrote a script that did this from CSV but it didn't have audio so I moved to this making the first gen of this app - its open sourced here if you would like to repurpose it https://github.com/Amber-Williams/language-flashcard-app-gpt.... I could try and find my code I make to generate the Anki deck if anyones interested as well.

Custom cards is something I agree is a nice to have. If you have preferences please share I'll try to add them to future feature updates.

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

#39

Post by williamsss »

jamager wrote: post #31
naet wrote: post #23

I tried a little Japanese (the second language I know best). Not sure where the content comes from but the translations were wrong, the vocabulary was strange, and otherwise the cards did not work out for me. Seems like they were auto generated via AI or google translate or something, in any case they were not accurate or natural sounding. Maybe other languages are better but I wouldn't know enough to tell. Anki is o…

Can i get your feedback on https://thehardway.app ? I tried the best I can to test specially Japanese and Chinese without speaking those languages myself. the app uses real human content (audio and text) for the most part, so hopefully it comes natural enough. there is still some AI though

At first glance this is well designed and something I would use. I'll have a play after work and let you know

Re: Show HN: Ricotta – Language Learning to Replace Anki

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Post by jamager »

williamsss wrote: post #39
jamager wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can i get your feedback on https://thehardway.app ? I tried the best I can to test specially Japanese and Chinese without speaking those languages myself. the app uses real human content (audio and text) for the most part, so hopefully it comes natural enough. there is still some AI though

At first glance this is well designed and something I would use. I'll have a play after work and let you know

thanks, i'd appreciate if you let me know what you think , this is still very beta
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