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Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by dclowd9901 »

csmeder wrote: post #268
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #200

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I'm actually somewhat content with my broadband options. No, I'm not ecstatic and am glad this is happening but PLEASE someone disrupt the damn cell phone business. My ISP doesn't install software on my computer, doesn't hit me with mystery fees, and doesn't tell MS or Apple what to do, but cell carriers do all these things and more. >and endless efforts to further "monetize" me through harassing phone calls trying t…

Maybe once you have tried Gigabit (GIGABIT!) internet, on a daily basis you won't feel the same. Cloud storage and a bunch of other things will now feel very different. - Why own a computer when you can just vpn into a cluster through a thin client? - Why own a game system... - Stream 4k HD movies - A whole bunch of ideas not thought of yet. 0r maybe your right and it wont be that different, I would like the chance t…

This is kinda how I feel about self-driving vehicles. People really don't seem to get it. It will change everything.

- You can call your car if you need it like Bruce Wayne calls the Batmobile.

- You can send things across town. No more courier or logistics.

- No more DUIs or drunk driving accidents.

- No more accidents period.

- No more insurance.

I know it's still a ways off, but damned if I'm not excited as hell. <3 Google.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by cookiecaper »

mayneack wrote: post #338
csmeder wrote: post #268

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Maybe once you have tried Gigabit (GIGABIT!) internet, on a daily basis you won't feel the same. Cloud storage and a bunch of other things will now feel very different. - Why own a computer when you can just vpn into a cluster through a thin client? - Why own a game system... - Stream 4k HD movies - A whole bunch of ideas not thought of yet. 0r maybe your right and it wont be that different, I would like the chance t…

Wonder how much the weather in Kansas can deal with this. I still might be hesitant to depend on streaming content or entirely cloud storage if I can't guarentee access in a tornado. Even without weather concerns, if I somehow mess up my configuration and don't have a reliable network connection, I don't want to be entirely cut off. Still good, but I won't be abandoning local storage any time soon.

As always, it's smart to have redundant backups. However, your stuff is way, way safer, in terms of destructability, on Google's infrastructure than your own, especially in the case of tornadoes when your storage media is likely to be flung a half-mile away if you get hit.

Tornadoes are actually one of the more mild natural disasters. They are certainly not any more likely to knock out your ISP, whose cables are underground, than any other natural calamity. California's earthquakes pose a much greater threat to infrastructure than Kansas's tornadoes.

And like chucknelson, I lived in KC for years and can't recall a weather-related service disruption for my ISP.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by [deleted] »

javert wrote: post #302
larrys wrote: post #269

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"Just because bell labs was owned by a telco" They were able to do that because they were a public utility with guaranteed profits. The stock and earnings were stable ("widow and orphan" money was an expression for people who needed these safe investments). Something important to keep in mind. Really not possible to do that in today's competitive disruptive environment.

Yeah, I completely agree, it's just obviously not possible for companies to do research anymore. Anyone who doesn't see this - I just don't understand how you can fail to.

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Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by westbywest »

wickedchicken wrote: post #199
maratd wrote: post #102

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> contemptible customer support Because Google will be so much better? Look, I hate telcos just like the next guy, but the suckage is mostly due to the nature of the business. They form natural monopolies and that sort of thing doesn't lead to customer satisfaction. The only way that sector is going to get truly disrupted is through gigabit wireless internet. You can have multiple competitors in one space with compar…

> You can have multiple competitors in one space with comparatively limited infrastructure investment on their part. Spectrum and tower licensing is off the hook, and it's unlikely that more than a handful of companies will have the business acumen, capital, and regulatory skill to build up a network of significance. Any 'gigabit wireless' scheme will likely look the same it does today: a handful of key players with…

"Any 'gigabit wireless' scheme will likely look the same it does today: a handful of key players with reciprocal data roaming agreements, and a few MVNOs which piggyback off the big guys. Wireless infrastructure is so expensive that carriers don't even have full coverage: ... "

Ubiquiti, among other vendors, now sells various flavors of cheap ($50-$100US) 802.11n and now 802.11ac radios that purport 100Mbit/s of actual throughput. I use slightly older versions of these radios outdoors, and can verify 40Mbit/s throughput on point-to-point links spanning a mile or so.

Furthermore, Ubiquiti has also just rolled out 20GHz unlicensed radios with expected 700Mbit/s throughput on p2p links, costing $3k per link, a price which will likely go down as time passes.

The wireless hardware does not have to use a licensed band.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by mag487 »

mythz wrote: post #348
Tloewald wrote: post #340

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Yeah google has a nice motto.

It's the worst company motto of all time! They seemingly can't make any pro-company decision without being accused of consorting with the Devil. In contrast everyone knows Apple just cares about Apple. Whenever they do something evil, it just gets labelled as "Oh, that's just Apple being Apple".

It's an awesome motto that's served them extremely well. Google's ability to frame themselves as the "good guys" is the only real marketing advantage they have.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by nazgulnarsil »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #401
csmeder wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe once you have tried Gigabit (GIGABIT!) internet, on a daily basis you won't feel the same. Cloud storage and a bunch of other things will now feel very different. - Why own a computer when you can just vpn into a cluster through a thin client? - Why own a game system... - Stream 4k HD movies - A whole bunch of ideas not thought of yet. 0r maybe your right and it wont be that different, I would like the chance t…

This is kinda how I feel about self-driving vehicles. People really don't seem to get it. It will change everything . - You can call your car if you need it like Bruce Wayne calls the Batmobile. - You can send things across town. No more courier or logistics. - No more DUIs or drunk driving accidents. - No more accidents period. - No more insurance. I know it's still a ways off, but damned if I'm not excited as hell.…

You didn't even list the big stuff. In the short term we get the benefits you describe. In the long term the way we build cities and thus live our lives changes for the better as they become denser and much more space efficient.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by delackner »

Can't believe no one has mentioned that the TV option does not include AMC, HBO, ESPN, Disney Channel, TNT, CNN, Cartoon Network. (List from the Verge).

So the only channel it has that I actually would watch is The Daily Show, I mean Comedy Central, which I can watch on the net for free (in a much better extended length version).

Spreading real modern internet infrastructure to the masses in the US though, yes that is a very positive thing.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Post by dclowd9901 »

nazgulnarsil wrote: post #407
dclowd9901 wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is kinda how I feel about self-driving vehicles. People really don't seem to get it. It will change everything . - You can call your car if you need it like Bruce Wayne calls the Batmobile. - You can send things across town. No more courier or logistics. - No more DUIs or drunk driving accidents. - No more accidents period. - No more insurance. I know it's still a ways off, but damned if I'm not excited as hell.…

You didn't even list the big stuff. In the short term we get the benefits you describe. In the long term the way we build cities and thus live our lives changes for the better as they become denser and much more space efficient.

I'm not even sure we can predict that far ahead what such a revolution would mean for human civilization. It would truly be game-changing.
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