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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Say what you will about the cuts, you can't have people with zero clearance being given access to all of this data.

The president has absolute authority on who has access to classified data (with the exception of some nuclear secrets)

No, that isn't correct.

Clearance is a process and it hasn't been obeyed, and the ultimate purpose of it is to both audit potential recipients and train them in security protocols. The president can't elude it, though he can pardon them for federal crimes, which they're committing a lot of.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Is anyone really surprised here?

This is Elon who is neck deep in the cesspool parts of the internet and attracts the same kinds of people.

They will continue to break every rule they can and ignore the legal push back as much as possible. They know that there is little they could do here that will result in any criminal prosecution.

Batten down the hatches and expect worse to come, the safeties are off.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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> there is nothing that anyone but the judiciary system can do. Sure there is. A general strike for example. But we’re talking about the USA, so fat chance.

Indeed. The problem is and has been for awhile that the "other team" is not willing to purposefully acquire and wield power. They seem to have a very confused view of what politics actually is, to the point where it's not clear if what they are doing even qualifies as politics.

There are abundant ways to wield power even when not in direct control of branches of government. For example, the unions that are suing to stop some of this have hundreds of thousands of members. They could shut down just about anything they want and wield enormous amounts of pressure.

Air traffic controllers could stand in solidarity to fellow fired federal workers and ground every airplane in the country indefinitely. Teamsters could completely immobilize Tesla, SpaceX, and everything else Elon Musk cares about in hours.

If you don't like my examples, come up with your own, but these concepts aren't fantastical at all they're just core ways to wield power in society. The Scandinavian countries do stuff like this all the time it's not even a relic of the 1930's or something.

There is a power struggle to determine what our society's goals are, how it accomplishes those goals, and for the benefit of whom. The "MAGA" side has a clear conception of this concept, and they're trying to grab as much power as they can get away with.

There is a massive amount of power that could be brought to bear against that. There always is whenever it's an attempt at rule by rich oligarchs, as they're always wildly outnumbered.

Someone just has to use it.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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When Elon stripped the Twitter organisation down to its fundamental parts, saved tons of money and the service is still ran like usual, people said the he’s a moron and the service couldn’t possibly run without a bloated and inefficient workforce.

They were wrong. Now that Elon is applying the same philosophy to all of his companies and now the federal government, people are once again saying he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

At a certain point, you have to ask yourself if these people who complain like headless chickens are actually serious people …

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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A career fed guy in his 50s being forced to beg for his job in a 15 minute teleconference to an arrogant zoomer in shorts and an unbuttoned suit is peak representation of democracy.

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You can always tell when someone doesn't think that their personal nest eggs can get cracked.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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A career fed guy in his 50s being forced to beg for his job in a 15 minute teleconference to an arrogant zoomer in shorts and an unbuttoned suit is peak representation of democracy.

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You have fallen for Musk's con.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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A career fed guy in his 50s being forced to beg for his job in a 15 minute teleconference to an arrogant zoomer in shorts and an unbuttoned suit is peak representation of democracy.

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Reality isn't a Metal Gear Solid fanfic, sorry.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Ignoring the horrifying political parts, I think one aspect here about data access that is inherently worrying is that it seems like all usual controls were bypassed and the DOGE people had very low level access to systems. So there are probably copies of sensitive data now in their possession, and nobody knows exactly what was copied and where it is stored. This kind of access would be dangerous even in the hands of…

Also apparently huge scores of data was just dumped into a Microsoft hosted LLM [1].

So that data is (a) publicly available if you don't secure your VPC properly and (b) available to anyone without RBAC or request logging. This is an extraordinary degradation of the level of private and security controls.

[1] https://www.firstpost.com/tech/elon-musks-team-at-doge-feedi...

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