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Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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> it's the non autistic people who have deficiencies in communication Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one. People say ND people are blunt and frank... but the other side of the same coin would be that NT people can't talk about facts.

> when you get asked why you did apply. What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?" Then saying "hey, I need money for blah whatever" is non-responsive, but you can just talk about why you think you might be a good fit for them after all. Much of this stuff is just cultural anyway. There are Western societies where being "blunt and fra…

Chat, are Dutch people autistic?

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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> it's the non autistic people who have deficiencies in communication Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one. People say ND people are blunt and frank... but the other side of the same coin would be that NT people can't talk about facts.

> when you get asked why you did apply. What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?" Then saying "hey, I need money for blah whatever" is non-responsive, but you can just talk about why you think you might be a good fit for them after all. Much of this stuff is just cultural anyway. There are Western societies where being "blunt and fra…

> What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?"

I think you just made that up.

There can be plenty of things the interviewer could be fishing for. They may want to hear that the candidate really wants to work at this job (and have a "correct" reason - the company, the team, the nature of the job ....). They might want to hear about how it's similar to your previous jobs. It's quote possible they want a specific response, and it's either an intentional or untintentional gotcha.

The interviewer might just have heard it's a good question, and is filling in time, or faking being a good interviewer. They aren't "autistically" trying to get the best candidate, maybe then your interpretation is right and you want to say why you're a good candidate for the job.

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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> when you get asked why you did apply. What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?" Then saying "hey, I need money for blah whatever" is non-responsive, but you can just talk about why you think you might be a good fit for them after all. Much of this stuff is just cultural anyway. There are Western societies where being "blunt and fra…

> What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?" I think you just made that up. There can be plenty of things the interviewer could be fishing for. They may want to hear that the candidate really wants to work at this job (and have a "correct" reason - the company, the team, the nature of the job ....). They might want to hear about how i…

Why are you assuming that being a good fit would not also include things such as liking the company, the job etc? It's all the same thing anyway, you're right that there might be some cases where that becomes quite relevant. What's not going to be helpful though is answering "hey I just want to make some money and pay my rent" - even though in some sense, that answer might be quite reflective of reality!

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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Rapid data ingestion?

Is causing what to happen? Killing people? Making them sterile? Making them grow huge dicks? Giving them 40 wives? As far as I can tell, autism isn't really a trait one wants in order to be successful sexually.

I dunno, look at Elon with his X children.

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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> What they're really asking, translated to "blunt and frank communication" mode is: "Why should we even care that you applied?" Then saying "hey, I need money for blah whatever" is non-responsive, but you can just talk about why you think you might be a good fit for them after all. Yes, and that's exactly what's confusing to people like me who have autism; the question being asked isn't actually the question that th…

I think I've made the case above that it's not merely about "being neurotypical", it's also about being steeped in a very specific culture. That peculiar use of "why did you apply" might as well be described as an idiomatic expression, a play on words that happens to be common in that well-defined context. If you aren't familiar with that usage because you are from a different cultural context (or even something as s…

It doesn't seem plausible to me that "why did you apply" is like an idiomatic expression. Where would it come up outside of a job interview? Are you saying that a non-autist would not get it in the first couple interviews as a young person then pick it up?

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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I am not an expert in any way, shape or form but I wonder how this squares with this other journal article in Nature: Molecular Psychiatry which came out in 2024? "11C-UCB-J PET imaging is consistent with lower synaptic density in autistic adults" https://doi.org/10.1038/s41380-024-02776-2 Edited to add title of the article

Different underlying causes for the same condition is possible.

Given how little we know about the internals of brain function, it’s not surprising to see conflicting indicators of the same condition.

I’m just a layman, tho, so what do I know.

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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The double empathy problem explains why it may not be a deficiency, just a "different brain language" between ND and NT people. Basically, from autistic perspective, it's the non autistic people who have deficiencies in communication. There's been a whole lot of research about that in the last 10-15 years or so. And a lot of memes in the community.

> it's the non autistic people who have deficiencies in communication Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one. People say ND people are blunt and frank... but the other side of the same coin would be that NT people can't talk about facts.

> Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one

This question has been included (not by my choice) in some hiring loops where I’ve been an interviewer.

There are a lot of good answers that are definitely not lies. You see a lot of candidates who actually care about the work they do, the people they work with, and advancing their career.

You don’t even need to pretend you love to work. That’s not the question at all. Good answers include “This role is a natural next step in my career and I could leverage a lot of my experience at past jobs here”

The cynical myth that it’s just a trick question to see who lies the best does not match what I saw. Honestly, it’s not hard to see when someone is treating an interview question (or the whole interview) like a competition to see who can lie the best.

> People say ND people are blunt and frank... but the other side of the same coin would be that NT people can't talk about facts.

That’s a deeply unfair characterizing of “ND vs NT” given then that “neurodivergent” label covers a multitude of different modalities. There are people who identify as neurodivergent in ways that make them obsessively love their work, for example.

I personally don’t think the “neurodivergent” label is very useful any more because most people use it to describe themselves as if everyone “neurodivergent” is just like them and everyone not like them is “neurotypical”, as you’ve done in this comment.

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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> it's the non autistic people who have deficiencies in communication Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one. People say ND people are blunt and frank... but the other side of the same coin would be that NT people can't talk about facts.

> Example: In a Job interview, when you get asked why you did apply. Its the social norm to lie and make up some reason that sounds good, and saying the truth "i need money to pay my rent" makes you the weird one This question has been included (not by my choice) in some hiring loops where I’ve been an interviewer. There are a lot of good answers that are definitely not lies. You see a lot of candidates who actually…

If you offered minimum wage, do you think those candidates would still accept? If not, then you can deduce that the compensation must be a significant factor, but one that goes unstated.

Re: Brain Hyperconnectivity in Children with Autism and Its Links to Social Deficits (2013)

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I am not an expert in any way, shape or form but I wonder how this squares with this other journal article in Nature: Molecular Psychiatry which came out in 2024? "11C-UCB-J PET imaging is consistent with lower synaptic density in autistic adults" https://doi.org/10.1038/s41380-024-02776-2 Edited to add title of the article

Different underlying causes for the same condition is possible. Given how little we know about the internals of brain function, it’s not surprising to see conflicting indicators of the same condition. I’m just a layman, tho, so what do I know.

There are also two axis of deficit in autostic individuals. Social and cognitive. Its not uncommon for individuals to present without cognitive deficit, however social deficits can still be severe e.g. A 5 year old who cannot participate in class due to meltdowns and inability to follow social norms such as sharing/turn taking/listening.

I haven't read these studies, but it seems natural that there would need to be control for the type and severity of autism.

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