OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store • Hacker News Board

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by shinratdr » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 6:05 AM UTC

hnriot wrote: post #107

draebek wrote: post #93

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Things that make me reboot my Mac: 1. Software updates. 2. My Bluetooth headset hangs in a way that requires a reboot via power button. Happens probably once every six weeks on average. 3. VM software (mostly VirtualBox) crashes my system. Has probably happened at least twice in the past three months. 4. Booting in to Windows to play games.

so, what, you're saving 20 * 15 seconds per year?

I don't know about GP but I reboot into Windows to play games every other day, usually multiple times that day. Reducing boot time is always welcome.

Also I'm having GPU issues right now, I had to RMA the replacement GPU, and I'm using the buggy Chameleon bootloader to extend the lifespan of my Mac Pro 1,1 past the EFI32 cutoff. So I'm rebooting quite a bit nowadays.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by shinratdr » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 6:11 AM UTC

blakesmith wrote: post #110

super_mario wrote: post #95

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Imagine how Mac Pro users like me feel. Now my Mac Pro feels like a phone. Yippie. I'm staying on Snow Leopard for as long as the hardware works. When it fails, it's time to move on. Linux is looking prettier every day. I don't know what the hardware choices are going to be in 5 years though. If Apple has their way, general computing will go away by the end of the decade.

Ugh, sorry to hear that. I can imagine the new interface designs being pretty annoying for Mac Pro users. I have also thought about making the jump back to Linux, but really enjoy the sturdy unibody build quality of macs. I'm also less inclined to fiddle with OS customization and tweaking than I used to be in college, which I did a lot of when I was in Linux land.

Original Mac Pro owner here, it runs better with 10.8 than it ever did with 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 or 10.7. I can do every single thing I was able to do in 10.4, including the ability to run 10.4 if I wanted. I don't though because just like clinging to XP, you do yourself no favours by not taking advantage of all we've learned about computing in that tine.

Honestly, turned your machine into a phone? Give me a break. OS X at it's core is the same as it ever was. Besides those who make extensive use of virtual desktops, most people don't have a good reason to feel otherwise.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by shinratdr » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 6:14 AM UTC

rbanffy wrote: post #31

I wonder if I'll have to turn my 2006 MacBook into a Hackintosh to run it. That would be very disappointing.

You can't do that, only the Mac Pro can do that. The only reason the Mac Pro can get away with it is because its original unsupported GPU can be popped out and replaced with one that has drivers in 10.8. There is no GMA950/X3100 64-bit driver. You're SOL for running Mountain Lion on that machine, give up now.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by hyperbovine » Thu, Jul 26, 2012, 9:20 PM UTC

glhaynes wrote: post #126

hyperbovine wrote: post #106

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Did you really just compare the industrial revolution to the texture of a calendar app menu bar?

No, the original poster made an analogy. There's no equivalence being drawn nor value-comparison being made and it's very frustrating how often legitimate analogies are made and the conversation gets bogged down in "you said those are basically the same you must be crazy!" when no such thing happened.

Interesting that you would accuse me of putting words in somebody's mouth by putting words in my mouth. It's a flawed analogy.

Re: OS X Mountain Lion available on the Mac App Store

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Post by ryannielsen » Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 7:50 AM UTC

rbanffy wrote: post #148

ryannielsen wrote: post #139

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I suspect the good reason is they didn't want to spend time making the 64-bit kernel support 32-bit EFI and didn't want to create and qualify an EFI update for 64-bit machines that have 32-bit EFI. Likewise, they probably didn't want to spend time supporting a 32-bit kernel when they stopped shipping machines which require it 5-6 years ago.

I think the only Mac shipped with a 32 bit x86 processor was the original 15-inch MacBook Pro. But I suspect the Intel GMA GPU may also play a part. I read the HCL and couldn't find a machine with anything less than an Nvidia chip. Anyway, 6 years is a long life for a laptop.

Actually, many generations of Macs shipped with 32-bit processors. The first two generations of Intel 15" and 17" laptops, the first generation (at least) of Intel iMacs, and I believe three generations of Intel Mac Minis.