Is Google going pull a Google with this and keep a copy of every you packet transmit and receive, holding onto it for ever and ever?
Google Fiber Plans & Pricing
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why own a game system... There's actually a service called "OnLive" that streams games, it seems pretty cool. It's a mashup between Steam and Netflix; you don't have to have a gaming PC to render the frames, just a fast Internet connection to stream them.
Not until we can push data across distances faster than the speed of light. The input and video latency makes it impractical for all but the slowest-paced of games.
Your comment reminded me of:
I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that?
From: http://superuser.com/questions/419070/transatlantic-ping-fas...
There is user-side latency and there is server-side latency. In multi-player games it may be preferable to have less latency within the game between players than in the players' view of the game.
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#313Only available in Kansas City?
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be careful what you wish for. I'm dubious of getting any kind of service from a company known for not having any kind of customer service whatsoever.
TelCo call centers are universally useless. Google could have a phone number you call and a robot on the other end that informs you of service disruptions and tells you to turn it off and turn it on again, and they would have better service than most ISPs.
Maybe it's different in the States, but my experiences with Shaw/Rogers have been universally positive on the tech support front. 24/7 call center, and either the problem is fixed then and there, or there's someone out to replace the modem the next day. Hell, I even had one of them walk me through cloning my MAC address to force a new IP when I got banned from 4chan back in the day.
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#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? You might change your mind when you consider that Bell Labs (part of the "Soviet Bureau" you despise) created: - The transistor - The laser - The C language - The Unix operating system Other notable discoveries (but not of concern to those who discount anything not Internet-related) are things like the cosmic background radiation, etc. etc. etc. SO: as much as I hate to defend "the telcos" (wired/wireless/cab…
You're leaving out a very key point: because of an antitrust case against AT&T, they were forbidden from turning their non-telephone technology into proprietary products. In other words, they were essentially conducting research for the public interest at no real cost to the public . That's very different from any definition of a 'monopoly' that I'm aware of, and very different from modern network providers. Many fac…
No cost to the public? Instead of doing research they could have provided better support (or perhaps lower prices) to their actual customers.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
Errr. Have you tried it? I've spent several playing first person shooters and it's easy to forget you're not playing locally.
There has to be latency issues, but as anyone that used to play Quake over dial-up can tell you: you get used to it.
A local client does not suffer from input latency and the client does not validate camera movement (mouselook) to server snapshots . There's also some leeway into other kinds of movement so latency jitter and a few dropped packets do not inadvertently disrupt the player's flow. Furthermore, the server does latency compensation that is crucial for actually hitting anything, especially with hitscan weapons lacking AoE damage. All the above is a very simplified explanation of what happens, more details at following PDF [1].
Games on OnLive lack the above features and you also have input lag, where, for example, a camera movement with the mouse will take the full network RTT plus processing time to reflect on the client's screen.
[1] http://web.cs.wpi.edu/~claypool/courses/4513-B03/papers/game...
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#317Thank GOD they're disrupting this industry. All the telcos are worthless "Soviet bureaus" that deserve death. It's really sort of amazing to think about. In all my years on this planet I have never been pleased with a telecom company. Never. I have always felt like I was paying far too much for inferior service, contemptible customer support, and endless efforts to further "monetize" me through harassing phone calls…
Be careful what you wish for. I'm dubious of getting any kind of service from a company known for not having any kind of customer service whatsoever.
Having used Google customer service as a paying customer I have never had an issue. Customer service on their free offerings is another story all together but what do you expect on that end anyways?
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#318Who wants to bet these have HD's (or SSDs) in them and are set up for peer-to-peer content caching on the local city network?
They'd be stupid if they didn't do that.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not until we can push data across distances faster than the speed of light. The input and video latency makes it impractical for all but the slowest-paced of games.
Your comment reminded me of: I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that? From: http://superuser.com/questions/419070/transatlantic-ping-fas... There is user-side latency and there is server-side latency. In multi-player games it may be preferable to have less latency within the game between players than in the players' view of the game.
You can send a packet to Europe and have it return faster than your fingers can respond to something your eyes just saw.
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#320Cool, but do they have a plan that doesn't freely give my data to law enforcement as part of a regular dragnet?