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Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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Not until we can push data across distances faster than the speed of light. The input and video latency makes it impractical for all but the slowest-paced of games.

Errr. Have you tried it? I've spent several playing first person shooters and it's easy to forget you're not playing locally.

There has to be latency issues, but as anyone that used to play Quake over dial-up can tell you: you get used to it.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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post #269

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>You might change your mind when you consider that Bell Labs (part of the "Soviet Bureau" you despise) created Just because bell labs was owned by a telco, doesn't mean they were a telco. A research organization existing under the ownership of a telco company doesn't make telcos provide good service, or have fair prices, or have good customer service.

"Just because bell labs was owned by a telco" They were able to do that because they were a public utility with guaranteed profits. The stock and earnings were stable ("widow and orphan" money was an expression for people who needed these safe investments). Something important to keep in mind. Really not possible to do that in today's competitive disruptive environment.

Yeah, I completely agree, it's just obviously not possible for companies to do research anymore. Anyone who doesn't see this - I just don't understand how you can fail to.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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post #269

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>You might change your mind when you consider that Bell Labs (part of the "Soviet Bureau" you despise) created Just because bell labs was owned by a telco, doesn't mean they were a telco. A research organization existing under the ownership of a telco company doesn't make telcos provide good service, or have fair prices, or have good customer service.

"Just because bell labs was owned by a telco" They were able to do that because they were a public utility with guaranteed profits. The stock and earnings were stable ("widow and orphan" money was an expression for people who needed these safe investments). Something important to keep in mind. Really not possible to do that in today's competitive disruptive environment.

IBM isn't a public utility with guaranteed profits, but they do a fair amount of both fundamental and applied research.

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TelCo call centers are universally useless. Google could have a phone number you call and a robot on the other end that informs you of service disruptions and tells you to turn it off and turn it on again, and they would have better service than most ISPs.

My local TelCo, despite being shitty, plays a recorded message everytime there are specific issues affecting the area.

I get a message like that from Time Warner. I love it, because it always says, "A service disruption has been reported in the Los Angeles area. Service is expected to be restored by 8pm." Classic.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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post #214

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> If you paid as much now as you did for the same flight in the 70s, you'd still get the very same service. I believe they call it first-class now. I had the opportunity to purchase a first class upgrade (first time not flying economy) on an Alaska flight from Seattle to Oakland, and the service difference between the coach experience just two days prior was insane. There was no meal in coach (flying during breakfast…

i've flown international business class on luxury airlines twice (once on singapore on the company dime, and once on qatar through a random complimentary upgrade). the service is just staggering--never mind the full-flat bed-seats, the unlimited free liquor, the gourmet food, or the entertainment center with a full array of power outlets and usb and video ports so i could run any device and content i wanted, what rea…

for someone who'd never flown anything other than coach, the experience was mindblowing, especially since the upgrade was only $50 at the airport.

i'd love to fly first or business again when i eventually go to europe, but as a hypothetical exercise i checked prices, and a firstclass roundtrip tickect is roughly $20k and business, though much better, is still $6k (i just checked lufthansa.com for sfofra leaving august 4 and returning sep 1, so i'm sure better deals exist). If I flew coach, the whole vacation could be $6k.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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post #289

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"That free tier? That is outright illegal and its sole purpose is to eradicate all competition." Why don't we sue Google for providing free WiFi in Mountain View? And Google Fiber isn't free - its $300 to cover the equipment costs. I'm pretty that 12 months of basic DSL for less than $300 anyway, installation included. Some neighbors will "freely" share their internet, should incumbent cable co sue them aswell for un…

Yeah, I wouldn't consider $300 up front "free". It's an amortized price, similar to XM Radio's $400 lifetime subscription fee. Frankly, I'd like to see more amortized pricing like this.

I'm cynical about this kind of pricing. Once you've paid up, in the companies' books you're in the minus column until the end of time. Incentives are no longer aligned. Combine this with the way that telcos treat regular paying customers ... I wouldn't like to put myself in that position, even with a company that tries to be aggressively benevolent.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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post #124

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I don't mind having no call centers to call as long as the service works better and the network is smart. Currently, you are having to use a phone to verbally tell the telco where the problems are on the network they run, which is insane.

You will be on a phone one way or another when the internet is down.

Yes, but I would rather not spend all of that listening to fur-elise for the umpteenth time while getting lost in the arcane submenus of a corporate telephone system, all the while being told how valued I am as a customer by a repeating disembodied voice.

Re: Google Fiber Plans & Pricing

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I really want this to succeed. I have never had a great experience with high speed Internet.

I'd even consider adopting a KC home, and paying some or all of their $300 for free Internet if it meant it would come to the San Jose area sooner.

Maybe a Kickstarter to wire a fiberhood?

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