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Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn’t importing a credit card statement eliminate the need for manual entries? I don’t use an expense tracking tool - apologies if my question may is missing context.

Most banks don't have an API, and statements are (often) lagged, sometimes even by a week or a month depending on how archaic the systems are.

Lots of providers exist for bank information, Plaid is one of them. That's what many of these auto import personal finance softwares use.

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#52
Looks like a solid project, will be interested in giving it a shot

Aside: I built my own expense tracker [1] as well to categorise expenses using LLMs as I needed a quick way to log the entries. I’ve been meaning to export these to Actual budget for a detailed analysis but haven’t done that yet.

[1]: https://github.com/mr-karan/gullak

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

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Generally looks like a promising idea even in a deeply-competitive space, however the "selling point" of having pie charts to summarize your monthly spending does absolutely nothing for me - I know, banks etc use them in their marketing of "modern" online tools too, so they look kind of cool, but in practice for decision making about personal finance I find them absolutely useless. What I need to know on a regular ba…

> What I need to know on a regular basis, during a given month and at the end of the month, is: how much have I spent in general, compared with how much I planned to spend? Am I overspending in a particular category that I need to correct to keep my monthly budget on track, e.g. a fixed allowance for eating out per month, have I spent it all by week three or can I afford to have one more fancy dinner with my wife or with friends and still stay within my budget?

Don't most personal finance apps have this? You can set a budget for a category per day/week/month and see how much you spent and how much you have left to spend.

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

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post #43

Generally looks like a promising idea even in a deeply-competitive space, however the "selling point" of having pie charts to summarize your monthly spending does absolutely nothing for me - I know, banks etc use them in their marketing of "modern" online tools too, so they look kind of cool, but in practice for decision making about personal finance I find them absolutely useless. What I need to know on a regular ba…

almost none such tools touch the problem of future planning or projection. it's kind of strange but perhaps it reflects culture. nothing beats making your own spreadsheets.

What kind of future projection are you looking for? My main issue is not all months are the same, sometimes I might spend way more in a given month for a given category (perhaps a one-off purchase like new furniture) that I don't aim to replicate for the next month, so how would the projection work in that case?

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#55

This is super cool! I was looking for something like this just a few days ago. Ended up going with Flow[1], an open source Android app, because I wanted something that I could enter data on from my phone and run completely locally there. I don't yet have Tailscale running, or some other solution to access my homelab on the go. But it's great to see more and more software designed to run on people's local networks. An…

Flutter, nice. How well does the syncing work? I was playing around with making my own personal finance tracker and syncing via CRDTs.

Edit: ah, it's not available on web or desktop which is a shame (looks like you can build and run it but it's more so DIY and no UI optimizations for larger screens, they say on the README), I would do more serious personal finance work on a bigger screen rather than a phone. They could easily add these platforms as it's on Flutter, not sure why they haven't already.

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#56
Built my own expense tracker on top of Teable.

I’m partly lucky because I live in Taiwan and almost any receipt here comes with itemised breakdown as a QR code, so I can scan that from my phone and pipe it off to a queue for ingestion

Didn’t want to use LLMs, but wanted automated categorisation of transactions, did that with some vector embeddings and Semantic Router (https://github.com/aurelio-labs/semantic-router).

… oh and it’s run off a RPi, yes the embeddings as well

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#57

Built my own expense tracker on top of Teable. I’m partly lucky because I live in Taiwan and almost any receipt here comes with itemised breakdown as a QR code, so I can scan that from my phone and pipe it off to a queue for ingestion Didn’t want to use LLMs, but wanted automated categorisation of transactions, did that with some vector embeddings and Semantic Router ( https://github.com/aurelio-labs/semantic-router…

Just curious, you didn’t use the e-invoice solution (載具)?

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#58

Built my own expense tracker on top of Teable. I’m partly lucky because I live in Taiwan and almost any receipt here comes with itemised breakdown as a QR code, so I can scan that from my phone and pipe it off to a queue for ingestion Didn’t want to use LLMs, but wanted automated categorisation of transactions, did that with some vector embeddings and Semantic Router ( https://github.com/aurelio-labs/semantic-router…

Just curious, you didn’t use the e-invoice solution (載具)?

Wanted to build my own dashboards for spend, instead of using an app, that’s basically it.

I might apply for the 載具 API at some point, but for now it works great

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#59
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most banks don't have an API, and statements are (often) lagged, sometimes even by a week or a month depending on how archaic the systems are.

Lots of providers exist for bank information, Plaid is one of them. That's what many of these auto import personal finance softwares use.

Having used Plaid, it is essentially web scraping as a service. It's an API built on top of very questionable access. It itself is not a formal API provided to you by the bank.

Re: Show HN: ExpenseOwl – Simple, self-hosted expense tracker

#60
I’ve been wanting something like this for a while. Was even thinking of building one myself. You beat me to it.

I like the simplicity. It’s just a quick add and then it’s in the pie chart. Think this could ever be integrated with bank spending automatically? I think that running locally would make you feel safe doing do.

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