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Post by adavies42 »

mahyarm wrote: post #189
dillona wrote: post #148

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I've had nothing but positive experiences on JetBlue

For me, it's not the airlines themselves most of the time, but the airports & governments and the requirements they force on airlines. The airports & government bureaucracy take something that should just be a catching a greyhound within 10 minutes of boarding into a 2-4 hour stressful nightmare.

you ever see American Graffiti? one thing that really stuck with me was the bit at the end where they're boarding a plane--it was just walk out onto the runway, present your ticket and walk up the stairs.

to do that nowadays you have to be flying private....

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Post by sootzoo »

quellhorst wrote: post #68

Meanwhile Verizon FIOS (fiber) is available in hundreds of cities. http://www.consumerfiber.com/fios-availability

There are some frustrating limitations. In my region (Philadelphia), they will literally have one street with full service and on the next block, they'll only sell you DSL. They announced not long ago they were "scaling back" their buildout, I suppose declaring something akin to "Mission Accomplished" when I still cannot get FiOS from them and, inexplicably, my neighbors not 500 yards away can.

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Post by xutopia »

This reminds me of when Bill Gates was purported saying that he'd enter the RAM market if prices didn't go down. Google has nothing to lose here. They want a faster web because it means more chances to provide ads. If ISPs aren't willing to provide it they will... and once they start the ISPs will have to follow suit.

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Post by maratd »

wickedchicken wrote: post #199
maratd wrote: post #102

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> contemptible customer support Because Google will be so much better? Look, I hate telcos just like the next guy, but the suckage is mostly due to the nature of the business. They form natural monopolies and that sort of thing doesn't lead to customer satisfaction. The only way that sector is going to get truly disrupted is through gigabit wireless internet. You can have multiple competitors in one space with compar…

> You can have multiple competitors in one space with comparatively limited infrastructure investment on their part. Spectrum and tower licensing is off the hook, and it's unlikely that more than a handful of companies will have the business acumen, capital, and regulatory skill to build up a network of significance. Any 'gigabit wireless' scheme will likely look the same it does today: a handful of key players with…

You're making a few assumptions there that I wasn't making. Just because it's wireless, I don't have any expectations of using it outside of my home.

I could technically run my own ISP in my apartment building by hooking up a router to a cable connection and charging a minimal fee for access. In fact, I'm sure quite a few people are already doing that. It would just be a problem if the cable company found out and terminated the account. If I were to get a business level connection that doesn't have those sorts of restrictions, there would be very little to stop me from running my own ISP. Well, except the government and the local corruption racket.

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Post by stephengillie »

dannytatom wrote: post #57
stephengillie wrote: post #36

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What about smaller markets like Seattle, Portland, or other cities up here? Is there any more info about their plan for build-out or how soon it'll be available in our neighborhoods?

I'd imagine it would get to Seattle sooner than later since there's a Google office here?

I would think so too...though technically it's in Kirkland...

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Post by lsc »

agildehaus wrote: post #209
lsc wrote: post #72

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yes. They would have to dramatically decrease their bandwidth charges, and they'd have to lower their charges in general (just 'cause the barrier to entry for their competition would be lower) but if anything, having a fat pipe at home would make storing things remotely a lot more attractive. Think about it; with that kind of a pipe, you could boot your desktop off of a drive in my datacenter, two cities away.

You could, but the latency would still suck.

That's why I said "my data centre, two cities away" and not 'my data centre on the other side of the world'

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Post by dannytatom »

stephengillie wrote: post #257
dannytatom wrote: post #57

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I'd imagine it would get to Seattle sooner than later since there's a Google office here?

I would think so too...though technically it's in Kirkland...

There's an office in Fremont too, though, I think.

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Post by Nrsolis »

wmf wrote: post #201
brlewis wrote: post #179

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The free tier? That's $300 up front. I expect some of that $300 defrays their ongoing marginal costs. See also sibling comments by eavc and EthanHeilman. Free Internet $0/mo $300 construction fee (one time or $25/mo for 12 mo)

From what I've read, FTTH installation costs over $700 per house so $300 doesn't sound like it's defraying much.

FTTH install cost is entirely dependent on the territory.

Overhead vs underground, apartment buildings vs. single family homes, number of directional bores (to get under streets), miles of sidewalk torn up to lay cable, etc. etc.

It's expensive and how expensive all depends on the neighborhood.

Consider this: you can't do $700 to just one home. That's the AVERAGE cost once you've decided to do a neighborhood. You sometimes need to do those homes 1000 at a time. SO: network build >= $700K minimum.

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