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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by mdhb »

77pt77 wrote: post #27
mdhb wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

Some are (also) dead. Dead means, to my understanding, killed by moderation.

I don’t know why it’s supposed to be some secret but there is absolutely an effort here from multiple parties to minimise conversation on the topic.

We can debate the reasons and logic as to why that might be but to pretend it isn’t happening is just silly.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by philipkglass »

mdhb wrote: post #31
77pt77 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some are (also) dead. Dead means, to my understanding, killed by moderation.

I don’t know why it’s supposed to be some secret but there is absolutely an effort here from multiple parties to minimise conversation on the topic. We can debate the reasons and logic as to why that might be but to pretend it isn’t happening is just silly.

You can see an alternate ranking of front-page stories that ignores flags here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/active

As I write, 4 out of the top 10 stories on "active" appear related to Musk, Trump, or both (numbers 4, 5, 8, 10):

1. Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data

2. Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Backdoor

3. Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

4. A German court rules: X must provide researchers access to data

5. Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

6. The origins of 60-Hz as a power frequency

7. Stop Using Zip Codes for Geospatial Analysis

8. Announcing the data.gov archive

9. U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users' encrypted accounts

10. Feds Halt the National Electric Vehicle Charging Program

If you prefer what you see on "active", you can bookmark that as your standard entry point to HN. I flag stories when they appear to be getting repetitive. I haven't actually done that with any of these stories, but I have previously done it with submissions about COVID, OpenAI, and Matt Mullenweg when they come in waves.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by silexia »

dang wrote: post #14
_fs wrote: post #5

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> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by ttepasse »

philipkglass wrote: post #32
mdhb wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know why it’s supposed to be some secret but there is absolutely an effort here from multiple parties to minimise conversation on the topic. We can debate the reasons and logic as to why that might be but to pretend it isn’t happening is just silly.

You can see an alternate ranking of front-page stories that ignores flags here: https://news.ycombinator.com/active As I write, 4 out of the top 10 stories on "active" appear related to Musk, Trump, or both (numbers 4, 5, 8, 10): 1. Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data 2. Apple Ordered by UK to Create Global iCloud Encryption Backdoor 3. Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns…

If you go on the further pages of /active you'll find a lot of flagged posts. An epidemic of flagging by the looks of it.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by MrFots »

silexia wrote: post #33
dang wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by [deleted] »

skulk wrote: post #9

off topic (who even cares about the OP) but I heard a clip of Musk saying that "the bureaucracy subverts democracy. I want government by the people, not the bureau" and ... I don't even. Do people really fall for this? Is it not obvious that one bureau is just being sub'd out for another less accountable one? Are people really that stupid?

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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by anigbrowl »

talldayo wrote: post #10
skulk wrote: post #9

off topic (who even cares about the OP) but I heard a clip of Musk saying that "the bureaucracy subverts democracy. I want government by the people, not the bureau" and ... I don't even. Do people really fall for this? Is it not obvious that one bureau is just being sub'd out for another less accountable one? Are people really that stupid?

> Do people really fall for this? Yeah. There are still people that call it "Twitter" in 2025.

What a weird comparison. Some people do that to annoy Musk fans, others do it because the original name for something is often preferred to a meaningless rebrand - much as everyone still refers to Alphabet corp as Google.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by pvg »

mdhb wrote: post #31
77pt77 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some are (also) dead. Dead means, to my understanding, killed by moderation.

I don’t know why it’s supposed to be some secret but there is absolutely an effort here from multiple parties to minimise conversation on the topic. We can debate the reasons and logic as to why that might be but to pretend it isn’t happening is just silly.

I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting there aren't flags, and a lot of them. The argument is that this is pretty much how HN works and is supposed to, for most repetitive topics. You can certainly make the case it should work some different way, either in general or for this topic specifically. But it's not some nefarious plot.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by anigbrowl »

like_any_other wrote: post #29
mdhb wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The part where he tries to point to a handful of exceptions to refute the idea that discussions about Musk are getting flagged en mass. It’s really not a difficult bit of text to parse. Edit: I have to reply to the comment below by editing this comment because I’ve now been banned from making new comments but I couldn’t help but notice you managed to take the original quote and literally remove half of it which would…

But the claim was "No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn", and his data shows that significant discussion is happening. Mass flagging doesn't change this. That is despite violating HN's "intellectual curiosity" rule.

You know perfectly well that the original top comment was expressive and hyperbolic in nature, stop trying to analyze it as if it were a dry quantitative claim. The point, which is extremely obvious, is that many posts are being systematically flagged for reasons of favoritism.

They're clearly HN relevant, given that they relate to a tech titan effecting drastic changes in government structure, with significant security and other, by technical rather than legal means. Systematic flagging of posts about the activites of the Biden administration would have been equally questionable.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by anigbrowl »

like_any_other wrote: post #11
dekhn wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likely the company in question does not want to share what their internal proprietary data that was leaked was. Either way, that, along with the brags from the ex-employee about still having access to the company's machines after termination, speaks to his character. It seems pretty clear, taking all the evidence into account, that it was unwise to give him a high level of access to government data.

> Likely the company in question does not want to share what their internal proprietary data that was leaked was. If they want us to use it to evaluate his character, some hint would be needed. Was it a legitimate trade secret, or was it trivial and only an excuse to fire him. Companies claiming everything under the sun is a "trade secret" is nothing new - Microsoft famously claimed their extensions to Kerberos were…

That the alleged leak was to a competitor rather than the public is a bit of a giveaway.
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