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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by like_any_other »

dekhn wrote: post #18
like_any_other wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The magnitude of the secret does not matter: if your company says "don't steal and leak our data" and you go ahead and do it, it's still wrong I don't share your reverence for corporate secrets. To you, the exceptions are the secrets it is ok to share. To me, the exceptions are the secrets it is ok for corporations to keep. And corporations have certainly not earned the benefit of the doubt that I would assume, des…

you're entitled to your opinion, but it is not one shared by the normal parts of the government (which supports corporate IP). I think you have a larger issue that is independent of whether this individual is qualified for the role they most recently occupied.

Don't I know it. It's why trade secrets are protected by law, while smart TVs spying on users, with or without revealing it somewhere deep in their EULA, does not get even a slap on the wrist. And why the government bullies other countries into adopting restrictive, maximalist IP laws, but is wholly unbothered by consumer rights getting trampled by DRM and EULAs, or ridiculous patents getting granted.

We're racing to a corporate dystopia, and this is the reason why.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by mdhb »

dang wrote: post #14
_fs wrote: post #5

[flagged]

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by like_any_other »

mdhb wrote: post #22
dang wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

Which part of dang's post are you asserting is inaccurate?

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by disposition2 »

> The White House wouldn't comment directly on Coristine's employment, but an official who discussed the situation on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters said all DOGE staffers under Musk were working as employees of relevant agencies with security clearances.

It sounds like they might want to review how they are doing security clearance reviews (assuming they aren't just a blank check for this group) if they're letting folks like this through

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by [deleted] »

mdhb wrote: post #22
dang wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

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Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by mdhb »

like_any_other wrote: post #23
mdhb wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

Which part of dang's post are you asserting is inaccurate?

The part where he tries to point to a handful of exceptions to refute the idea that discussions about Musk are getting flagged en mass. It’s really not a difficult bit of text to parse.

Edit: I have to reply to the comment below by editing this comment because I’ve now been banned from making new comments but I couldn’t help but notice you managed to take the original quote and literally remove half of it which would have made your argument look very silly. To be fair Dang did the exact same thing.

Second edit: oh and would you look at that… it’s flagged. Exactly as predicted.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by 77pt77 »

mdhb wrote: post #22
dang wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

Don’t tell me with a straight face when you have access to the data more than anyone that these posts aren’t getting flagged en mass. We are all watching it happen.

Some are (also) dead.

Dead means, to my understanding, killed by moderation.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by mdhb »

disposition2 wrote: post #24

> The White House wouldn't comment directly on Coristine's employment, but an official who discussed the situation on the condition of anonymity to discuss personnel matters said all DOGE staffers under Musk were working as employees of relevant agencies with security clearances. It sounds like they might want to review how they are doing security clearance reviews (assuming they aren't just a blank check for this gr…

Actual real life clearances take between 6 - 12 months or longer depending on backlogs.

These people have zero actual “vetting” but “presidential authority” can just say to give them clearances on the spot which is what happened here.

So they have the legal bit of paperwork but it doesn’t actually mean anything. It was just an override of the regular checks and balances and would you believe it it turns out it’s filled with problems precisely like the process is designed to stop.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by like_any_other »

mdhb wrote: post #26
like_any_other wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which part of dang's post are you asserting is inaccurate?

The part where he tries to point to a handful of exceptions to refute the idea that discussions about Musk are getting flagged en mass. It’s really not a difficult bit of text to parse. Edit: I have to reply to the comment below by editing this comment because I’ve now been banned from making new comments but I couldn’t help but notice you managed to take the original quote and literally remove half of it which would…

But the claim was "No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn", and his data shows that significant discussion is happening. Mass flagging doesn't change this.

That is despite violating HN's "intellectual curiosity" rule.

Re: DOGE member previously fired by cybersecurity firm for leaking company secrets

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Post by tomrod »

dang wrote: post #14
_fs wrote: post #5

[flagged]

> No discussion of this sort shall be allowed on hn Here is the largest HN thread from the last 3 months (and the 3rd largest in all of the last year): The young, inexperienced engineers aiding DOGE - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42910910 - Feb 2025 (2954 comments) Other recent large discussions include: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968430 - Feb 2025 (304 comments) DOGE…

@DanG, you replied to my previous comment about this being a conversation that needs to happen.

Thanks for being even handed and giving folks forbearance.

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