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Stop using zip codes for geospatial analysis (2019)

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Re: Stop using zip codes for geospatial analysis (2019)

#42
post #14

ZIP codes are an emergent property of the mail delivery system. While the author might consider this a bad thing, this makes them "good enough" on multiple axes in practice. They tend to be: - Well-known (everybody knows their zip code) - Easily extracted (they're part of every address, no geocoding required) - Uniform-enough (not perfect, but in most cases close) - Granular-enough - Contiguous-enough by travel time…

Would add that there are network effects with zip code data. If you collect H2 data, you have fewer sources with which to join.

Re: Stop using zip codes for geospatial analysis (2019)

#43
post #14

ZIP codes are an emergent property of the mail delivery system. While the author might consider this a bad thing, this makes them "good enough" on multiple axes in practice. They tend to be: - Well-known (everybody knows their zip code) - Easily extracted (they're part of every address, no geocoding required) - Uniform-enough (not perfect, but in most cases close) - Granular-enough - Contiguous-enough by travel time…

In terms of "good enough", a Canadian postal code, broadly equivalent to a zip code, is much more granular and can often identify an individual apartment building, or single city block. Plenty of large office buildings in major Canadian cities also have their own postal code.

The functionality of it is closer to the "Zip+4" with extension used to have a more granular routing of physical mail for USPS.

https://www.canadapost-postescanada.ca/cpc/en/support/articl...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_Canada

Re: Stop using zip codes for geospatial analysis (2019)

#45
I wrote the blackout system for Comcast TV scheduling. My understanding was that blackouts were used mostly for sports where games need to be available in one area and not others. Contractually, they were required to use zip codes, so I used the US Post office's zip code data to enforce blackouts.

Re: Stop using zip codes for geospatial analysis (2019)

#50

H3 is awesome here! What I don't think many people realize is that H3 cells and normal geographic data (like zips) are not mutually exclusive. You can take zip outlines, and find all the h3 cells within them and allocate your metric accordingly (population, income, etc). This makes joining disparate data sources quite easy. And this also lets you do all sorts of cool stuff like aggregations, smoothing, flow modeling,…

What is the benefit of H3 vs a rectangular grid?
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