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Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by tptacek »

Hamuko wrote: post #65
tptacek wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not Wikipedia, right? Getting the maximum number of contributors isn't a stated goal? I'm a C programmer with a fair bit of kernel experience, and they don't want me, I'm pretty sure, and I'm completely fine with that.

Wikipedia has plenty of gatekeeping too. I once had to submit a single edit three times before the moderators safeguarding the article begrudgingly accepted it.

They do, but they have a stated goal of maximizing contribution. Linux does not, right? I'm asking.

Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by dncornholio »

harvey9 wrote: post #58
naasking wrote: post #22

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> 5 years later, it's still not there. It was just a one-liner, and I'm not really sure why it never got added. I think they expect people who want things to advocate harder than just mentioning it once. If no one brings it up again, then they assume that no one cares.

this seems very inefficient and the opposite of what I assumed. repeated requests take up time on both sides and are not a very good measure of how important something is.

it's not perfect but it works.

Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by threatofrain »

starspangled wrote: post #62
gary_0 wrote: post #48

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Positive, yes, but can you point to where he says R4L is here to stay and an integral part of the kernel? He needs to commit, or drama like this will continue to boil over. He also seems content to let the C-only old guard give the R4L guys a hard time. If you only enforce the rules on one side of a conflict, it makes it pretty clear which side you agree with.

Nothing in Linux is "here to stay", it always has to demonstrate its worth, and what it's worth is depends enirely on the technology and its developers, not Linus.

Perhaps C is here to stay and that is the way Linux should live and naturally die. That's what's being proposed here by the guy who opposes multi-language projects.

Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by cataphract »

mplewis9z wrote: post #10

Marcan certainly can be abrasive (I mean lol, so can Linus), but all the things he points out in the message below are 100% valid - I highly recommend for anyone here to try to contribute something even very small and logical to the Linux kernel or git (which use similar processes), it’s an eye-opening experience that’s incredibly unapproachable, frustrating, and demoralizing. https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/2…

I'm tired of anaphoras.

And he's not just abrasive He's a troublemaker. Seriously, code of conduct violation? It was perfectly clear what Hellwig meant by "cancer".

Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by [deleted] »

Havoc wrote: post #12

From what I can piece together it seems Hector is upset about someone ("Hellwig"?) doing something that was seen as intentionally sabotaging the rust efforts. Hector posted about it on socials. Linus came down on Hector for leveraging socials to fight kernel disputes. Hector quits. No doubt that is a flawed summary so feel free to correct

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Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by Dansvidania »

ubermonkey wrote: post #55
duxup wrote: post #42

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>and virtue signalling I'm not disagreeing as I don't know what exact things you're talking about, but I find "virtue signalling" and "communication" to be very similar terms these days. From statement to statement I'm not sure what anyone means by that phrase anymore.

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so how should it be called, in good faith?

Re: Asahi Linux lead developer Hector Martin resigns from Linux kernel

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Post by Philpax »

ChocolateGod wrote: post #59
chippiewill wrote: post #31

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> Arguably his reprimand of Martin is a clear signal that he will never show Rust any favor His reprimand is a clear signal that he won't tolerate brigading. Marcan was making a pretty blatant attempt at using social pressure to influence decisions.

People using Mastodon to promote pile-ons or brigading? No, never! That's actually one reason I don't use Mastodon, it's extremely common. Isn't this the guy that blocked HackerNews links to the Asahi Linux homepage because the moderators wouldn't do his bidding?

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