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Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Cost of electricity in Russia: $0.05 Cost of electricity in Estonia: $0.26 Painful.

Europeans voted for electricity that expensive, so not sure what the concern is. The government in Germany which shut down local production and decided to outsource it all did not come out of thin air.

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Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Lithuania - which I am from - as well. It's a long awaited step in becoming more independant from russia.

How is it viewed in your country? does this mean big increase in electricity prices?

Most likely the networks were connected for stability reasons for peak consumption instead of trading.

Also if russia was selling below EU market prices, it meant that there was a corruption somewhere, as it doesn’t make any sense from business perspective to do so.

Russia uses its energy as a weapon to corrupt and finance specific politicians, every country has to keep as far away from them as possible even if they offer energy for free.

Source: we had the same in Ukraine, and every step in decoupling from russia is made with blood.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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I feel that the EU is behind the curve. Trump just disbanded the task force that targets Russian oligarchs: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-disban... Furthermore, there is a clear danger that Trump will make peace in Ukraine (without consulting either the EU or Ukraine) and have the EU pay for the reconstruction. And he'll possible resume friendship with Russia after the EU-Russia relationships…

Nothing to do with the article. This desync plan was set 20 years ago. Baltic states have never been in good relations with our occupiers.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

#24
post #4

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia (in that order) will disconnect from grids in Königsberg (Kaliningrad), Belarus and Russia (in this order). After that the area will be working as isolated grid for 33h, after which the grids will be connected to synchronization link between Lithuania and Poland. Königsberg will remain a grid-island. Summary of timeline on page 18 (in Estonian): https://elering.ee/sites/default/files/pub…

Out of curiosity, why are you using the old name of Kaliningrad? I thought it was different only in Polish language.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Wow that's brutal, what's the context for this change? Was Estonia "bullied" into this, is it a popular change? 5xing electricity prices causes so much human suffering hope estonians have good ways of coping

I wouldn't mind some context here. Is 0.05 the price _only_ inside of Russia. Regardless, 0.05 seems extremely cheap to me. I can't think of any places in the states that pay that little. And 0.26 seems pretty darn expensive. I can only think of a few places I have been that charge that much.

From what I read, there are countries in Europe where it's ~0.40€/kWh (like Germany).

Here in France it's ~0.20€/kWh

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow that's brutal, what's the context for this change? Was Estonia "bullied" into this, is it a popular change? 5xing electricity prices causes so much human suffering hope estonians have good ways of coping

I wouldn't mind some context here. Is 0.05 the price _only_ inside of Russia. Regardless, 0.05 seems extremely cheap to me. I can't think of any places in the states that pay that little. And 0.26 seems pretty darn expensive. I can only think of a few places I have been that charge that much.

It doesn’t quote which price that is, which matters for this discussion, but I routinely pay 5c or less for energy generated in the states.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow that's brutal, what's the context for this change? Was Estonia "bullied" into this, is it a popular change? 5xing electricity prices causes so much human suffering hope estonians have good ways of coping

it's not "now", it's 2024 price. "Grid synchronization" doesn't mean, subsidized by Russia, it just meant that Russia provides energy if Estonia didn't produce enough energy, and the other way around (though it likely never happened). It's clear though that Russia was not selling at inland price.

According to Wikipedia, Estonia did sometimes export energy to Russia.

I don't know why this should be surprising.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_Estonia

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

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post #10

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Most of us are happy to suffer if it means not relying on Russia. This is the price of independence.

Doesn't it mean you're now dependent on the US (and our particular politics) as well as the middle eastern oil monarchies? Or is the idea to try to source all of the EU energy needs independently?

Yes, it is exactly that.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

#29
post #4

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia (in that order) will disconnect from grids in Königsberg (Kaliningrad), Belarus and Russia (in this order). After that the area will be working as isolated grid for 33h, after which the grids will be connected to synchronization link between Lithuania and Poland. Königsberg will remain a grid-island. Summary of timeline on page 18 (in Estonian): https://elering.ee/sites/default/files/pub…

Out of curiosity, why are you using the old name of Kaliningrad? I thought it was different only in Polish language.

It's Královec in Czech.

Re: Estonia to disconnect from the Russian-run electricity network on Saturday

#30
post #7

Cost of electricity in Russia: $0.05 Cost of electricity in Estonia: $0.26 Painful.

Europeans voted for electricity that expensive, so not sure what the concern is. The government in Germany which shut down local production and decided to outsource it all did not come out of thin air.

> The government in Germany which shut down local production and decided to outsource it all did not come out of thin air.

That is just plain wrong. https://www.iea.org/countries/germany/energy-mix

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