Remembering Aaron Swartz in this moment
Which was arguably more innocent — scientific papers.
Meta is not “innocent”, and comparing this instance with Swartz is a huge offense to his legacy.
Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
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#92We all like hating big corporations, especially Meta, and people seem to use this as an opportunity to advocate for punishing them. I think it's wiser to advocate for changing our IP laws.
Big corporations all like hating their consumers abd legal laws. You love committing crimes it seems.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google itself got big by indexing other people's data without compensation Wrong. a) Robots.txt which defines what content you wish to make available to third parties predates every search engine including Google. Web site owners chose to make it available to Google and search engines have respected their wishes despite it not being in their best interest. b) The difference here is that OpenAI, Meta etc have not ev…
point c is wrong...they had ads since the original yahoo contract....
Yahoo contract was 2 years after it launched.
I remember using Google the day it went public and it had no ads which made it unique compared to Altavista.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#94Best way to "punish" Meta is to slash the Gordian knot and abolish copyright. Level the playing field, incrementally, for everyone else who isn't a trillion-dollar corporation. The alternative is a futile legalistic attack against a monopoly entity too powerful to be meaningfully punished. That won't accomplish anything useful. It would, rather, help cement this status quo, where copyright infringement is selectively…
Ridding copyright would level the playing field for individuals and companies????!!!! Getting rid of laws that protect the individual only will help the larger empowered businesses.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#95We need better laws that would create a better way to do this legally whilst compensating rights holders.
We need better justice system that enforces the laws we have in the books that would help compensate right owners when big companies in emails pirate terabytes of data.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#96We all like hating big corporations, especially Meta, and people seem to use this as an opportunity to advocate for punishing them. I think it's wiser to advocate for changing our IP laws.
I truly hope Meta has a serious security issue that burns their company to the ground.
That said, I want them to burn for the right reasons.
Downloading data that should be available to the public is not one of them.
Re: Meta torrented & seeded 81.7 TB dataset containing copyrighted data
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google itself got big by indexing other people's data without compensation Wrong. a) Robots.txt which defines what content you wish to make available to third parties predates every search engine including Google. Web site owners chose to make it available to Google and search engines have respected their wishes despite it not being in their best interest. b) The difference here is that OpenAI, Meta etc have not ev…
Wrong. Google ignores robots.txt entirely
I wasn't aware. Can you please update Wikipedia then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt
Maybe also get Google to update their docs: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/...
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Lmao. Using A Jesus quote to defend a megacorp’s illegal piracy. Wow
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
Comprehensive intellectual property needs to happen for the modern (digital) era. Basically the entire legal system needs to be retooled and rethought for computers.
No we just need to enforce the existing laws. And the legal system is for humans not computers.
The existing laws are a problem, and are not enforced in a fair and just manner.
Yes, the legal system is for humans, but we can use technology to improve the system for humans, so it's faster, better and more fair, because humans aren't perfect, and now we have technology to be better than the system create a long time ago. You don't think the legal system should run on pens and paper right? Adapting to typewriters, was a benifit to the system?
Well, video on demand, live streaming, and things like LLMs can also make the system better for humans.