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U.K. orders Apple to let it spy on users’ encrypted accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Green bubble is messages you sent via SMS (and so may have been charged by your carrier depending on your cellular plan) Blue bubble is messages you sent via iMessage. All incoming messages are grey, regardless of whether they were sent to you via SMS or iMessage.

> and so may have been charged by your carrier depending on your cellular plan I don't know of any UK plan that charges.

Must be a couple of decades since I was last charged for SMS

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I’m so ashamed to be a U.K. citizen and to have both legacy parties (Tories and Labour) staunchly supporting these horrendous breaches of privacy. We have had a number of bad laws over the last ten years that have entrenched state surveillance and presumption of guilt. The only party I can see taking a principled stance on civil liberties is Reform UK, whose policy document states: > A British Bill of Rights > Our fr…

> Never again can our entire country be locked down on shoddy evidence and lies

What’s this about? Is it some mad “covid was a hoax” thing?

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Just make TimeCapsule for iOS and iPadOS. With option to store it fully encrypted in AWS cold storage as Apple subscription. I want my data to stay at home.

Are iTunes backups not a thing anymore?

iTunes backup requires a computer. Time capsule for iOS should be an appliance.

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Presumably the US government will have no compunction in using this to view US citizens private materials under UK government access rights, irrespective of US privacy law.

They'll share the data on US citizens with their US counterparts. Thats what the US and Australia do. That way govt's can claim they dont spy on their citizens. Their allies do it for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

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Archive link: https://archive.is/3Pp0U I was wondering whether this is about Advanced Data Protection, which encrypts almost all data end-to-end on iCloud. It’s only later in this report that it gets into this key detail: > At issue is cloud storage that only the user, not Apple, can unlock. Apple started rolling out the option, which it calls Advanced Data Protection, in 2022. Before stating this, the article says:…

If they had some balls, they would just stop offering icloud altogether in the UK until they have appealed. Let's see how the judge feels when half the country can't access their files anymore and Apple points to this decision as the reason.

Not just most of the judges, but most of the MPs who voted on this. Let them eat their own cake.

I think they could do something like what Tik Tok did, by letting users know why they can no longer provide the service.

I would personally give Apple money to see them actually stand-up to this. What's probably more concerning is the number of companies not complaining about this at all.

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I have zero clue where you’re getting this from. iPhone is incredibly popular and every politician has one.

It's very likely that iCloud is outright disabled via MDM on those politician iPhones anyway, so they probably wouldn't even notice.

In the UK the employment arrangements of politicians are very unconventional. In some ways, they're more like independent contractors than salaried employees.

If your MP has an office in their constituency? They rent the office and buy all the computers and desks and printers and whatnot out of their own pocket, and get the expenses reimbursed later on.

The separation between work life and professional life is also extremely blurry. After all, you have to build up a network of supporters and donors and people in the party who like you before you can get elected. So hundreds of your best supporters and closest allies already have your personal number saved against your name in their phone.

I think they do not have MDM.

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I’m so ashamed to be a U.K. citizen and to have both legacy parties (Tories and Labour) staunchly supporting these horrendous breaches of privacy. We have had a number of bad laws over the last ten years that have entrenched state surveillance and presumption of guilt. The only party I can see taking a principled stance on civil liberties is Reform UK, whose policy document states: > A British Bill of Rights > Our fr…

> Never again can our entire country be locked down on shoddy evidence and lies What’s this about? Is it some mad “covid was a hoax” thing?

Yes - Reform UK is a far right populist party. They currently have 5 out of 650 MPs and are steadily gaining popularity - similar to the rise of other parties like AfD across Europe.

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I’m so ashamed to be a U.K. citizen and to have both legacy parties (Tories and Labour) staunchly supporting these horrendous breaches of privacy. We have had a number of bad laws over the last ten years that have entrenched state surveillance and presumption of guilt. The only party I can see taking a principled stance on civil liberties is Reform UK, whose policy document states: > A British Bill of Rights > Our fr…

> Never again can our entire country be locked down on shoddy evidence and lies What’s this about? Is it some mad “covid was a hoax” thing?

Reform UK don't believe Covid was a hoax.

Reform UK believe that the purported efficacy of the mRNA vaccines at preventing transmission was massively exaggerated (we now know it was).

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Reform UK believe that the detrimental side effects of lockdown policy outweighed the benefits of lockdown policy (again, there's evidence to support this view)

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature...

"While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument."

We need more voices that are willing to state these truths in Parliament IMO.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never again can our entire country be locked down on shoddy evidence and lies What’s this about? Is it some mad “covid was a hoax” thing?

Yes - Reform UK is a far right populist party. They currently have 5 out of 650 MPs and are steadily gaining popularity - similar to the rise of other parties like AfD across Europe.

"Far right" suggests extremism.

Could you name an extremist policy that Reform have proposed?

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