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Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by yard2010 »

pickledoyster wrote: post #12
TheEnder8 wrote: post #6

The thing is, its not just Meta. It's anyone with a square inch of pixels that you can slap an ad on. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta gets a lot of flack, but it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon.

> it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon. Not in my country, where Facebook owns basically the entire messaging space through Messenger, Instagram, and WhatsApp. I have been able to switch my default search engine, email provider, mobile OS, office suite, etc. from Google no problem, but the network effect has been too strong to get most of my friends out of Meta's ad netwo…

Over the course of 5-6 years, I managed to move everyone that is important enough to me to Telegram. I don't care about privacy at all, I just couldn't stand the wrong abrasive spit-in-your-face whatsapp UX. It's funny how facebook was enshitified long before it was cool.

Now I don't have notifications enabled for Whatsapp and I rarely answer messages there. It makes me a freak by many standards but I'm free from enshitification in this regard!

Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

pickledoyster wrote: post #12
TheEnder8 wrote: post #6

The thing is, its not just Meta. It's anyone with a square inch of pixels that you can slap an ad on. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta gets a lot of flack, but it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon.

> it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon. Not in my country, where Facebook owns basically the entire messaging space through Messenger, Instagram, and WhatsApp. I have been able to switch my default search engine, email provider, mobile OS, office suite, etc. from Google no problem, but the network effect has been too strong to get most of my friends out of Meta's ad netwo…

One thing I have noticed is that local businesses don't have websites any more, they have Facebook pages instead. So if you want to find out about local events, Facebook is the only way.

Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

GuardianCaveman wrote: post #16
redleader55 wrote: post #10

I find it hilarious that the article starts with "are you mad at Meta for trying to appease the guy at the head of federal government" and ends with "we need strong federal privacy laws". It's the same federal government, you either trust it to legislate or you don't.

The right federal privacy laws would protect people regardless of the flavor of the 4 years if they're actually enshrined in law and would take something other than an executive order to undo.

That's the way it's supposed to work, yes. But it requires you to get the courts to agree and the executive to enforce. Which isn't a given anymore.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

computerthings wrote: post #24
redleader55 wrote: post #10

I find it hilarious that the article starts with "are you mad at Meta for trying to appease the guy at the head of federal government" and ends with "we need strong federal privacy laws". It's the same federal government, you either trust it to legislate or you don't.

Trump is neither the government, nor is he "the laws", nor allowed to make laws. https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/three-branches/what-...

That's the way it's supposed to work. But it requires both the courts to say so, and the executive to follow along.

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Post by belter »

ericjmorey wrote: post #51
dylan604 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this rhetorical? Nothing. Every website that adds their code will be tracking you. Every friend, acquaintance, or anyone that you’ve shared your contact with for what ever reason that has given them access to their contacts has provided your info for you. There’s nothing you can do about it. At the rate we’re going, it will soon be law that you have to allow them to track you. The Zuck just hasn’t figured out yet…

How does Meta track me when blocking the JavaScript from Meta controlled urls?

- Server-Side Tracking with CNAME Cloaking & Direct Server Calls

- Image-Based Tracking withPixel in No-JS Mode

- URL Parameter Tracking

- First-Party Cookies from Partner Sites

- IP & Fingerprinting

- Social Graph Inference

- Embedded iFrames & Cross-Site Requests

F#^$^%$$ Suckerberg...

Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by aembleton »

larsnystrom wrote: post #64
Jean-Papoulos wrote: post #60

There's a facebook share button right next to the article. The jokes write themselves : https://imgur.com/a/TbIjZSV

I agree it's ironic, however they seem to use an inert version of the share button. The default share button by Facebook contacts Facebook when you view the page, doesn't matter whether you click the button or not. The one used by EFF only contacts Facebook when you click it.

It's still directing traffic to them and providing content for them to monetise. Also, it doesn't use the nofollow tag.

Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by Yizahi »

mikae1 wrote: post #30
TheEnder8 wrote: post #6

The thing is, its not just Meta. It's anyone with a square inch of pixels that you can slap an ad on. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta gets a lot of flack, but it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon.

As a Swede, the Amazon comment is funny. They came here perhaps two years ago and everybody I know agrees they suck and can not compete with our local alternatives. They're not cheaper and the website is an utter mess of auto translations and dark patterns. Order flash storage and pray it's not counterfeit. We use Prisjakt[1] to compare prices and price history between shops. About Google... Yes, YouTube is hard for…

I'm reasonably sure that if you will block every single Amazon owned address at your entry firewall, a majority of the apps or sites will stop working for you. That's what is implied by saying that it is not possible to avoid Google, Amazon and either one of the MS or Apple.

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Post by Yizahi »

mattmaroon wrote: post #7
TheEnder8 wrote: post #6

The thing is, its not just Meta. It's anyone with a square inch of pixels that you can slap an ad on. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta gets a lot of flack, but it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon.

It’s pretty easy to stop using Amazon.

More like impossible

Re: Mad at Meta? Don't Let Them Collect and Monetize Your Personal Data

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Post by Yizahi »

TheEnder8 wrote: post #6

The thing is, its not just Meta. It's anyone with a square inch of pixels that you can slap an ad on. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta gets a lot of flack, but it's easy to stop using Facebook. It's a lot harder to stop using Google or Amazon.

If anyone is interested, there was an experiment about that. A week without either of Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook. And last week without all 5. Very illuminating.

https://gizmodo.com/i-cut-the-big-five-tech-giants-from-my-l...

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