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The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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The iOS App Store does the same thing with changing the rules in the middle of the game, but it is not subject to potential irrelevance because it is the only place to get software for iOS devices. So the obvious solution for Apple is to make the Mac App Store the only place to get software for MacOS. I'm actually a little surprised this didn't happen in 10.8.

That will be the day I go back to Linux.

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Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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Have you tried purchasing the "latest" version of World of Warcraft? You can't. There is no standalone "latest version". You have to purchase the original, and each version since, and finally the current version. Correlate those game content / game mechanics updates with In-App Purchases, and it's clear how someone could offer "major upgrades" if they stop thinking in terms of version numbers and start thinking in te…

Developers could very well re-architect their application so that when you download the update to v2, you have to unlock the new features with an in-app purchase, but to be honest, it's a lot of extra work for the developer, and there is no way to make it less painful for the users, who will feel like they are getting nickel and dimed by the developer. Also, for those users that are brand new on the v2 version, it's…

I think you misunderstood. He's suggesting that instead of releasing v2.0 on the App Store, you release an in-app purchase option in the original app that upgrades it to v2.0. A similar idea would be to release new features a la carte as in-app purchases instead of releasing new numbered versions. I'm not sure if the marketing hit would be worth it, but it is one way to a consistent revenue stream.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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post #31

this whole article goes over my head, because it assumes the reader is already familiar with the sandboxing issue. I'm not a desktop OS X developer; I'm not familiar with the topic. I searched around and the only articles I could find are blog posts about how the sky is falling, with no sources from Apple that plainly state the app sandboxing requirements. If you're going to write an article about how some upcoming t…

I'd like to understand the implications of sandboxing too. It must have some large negative impact on Instapaper for Marco to care this much. What is it?

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Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried purchasing the "latest" version of World of Warcraft? You can't. There is no standalone "latest version". You have to purchase the original, and each version since, and finally the current version. Correlate those game content / game mechanics updates with In-App Purchases, and it's clear how someone could offer "major upgrades" if they stop thinking in terms of version numbers and start thinking in te…

Developers could very well re-architect their application so that when you download the update to v2, you have to unlock the new features with an in-app purchase, but to be honest, it's a lot of extra work for the developer, and there is no way to make it less painful for the users, who will feel like they are getting nickel and dimed by the developer. Also, for those users that are brand new on the v2 version, it's…

The idea to have new features exist as unlockable extras actually is an advantage to users: if they don't need it, they still get updates for the feature set they bought.

So all that's missing is a way to give customers of "date X or later" unlockable features as part of the baseline sale.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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post #98

I'm going to put this comment here even though it doesn't belong because I wanted to make people aware and there's nowhere else to put it. Some HN moderator is censoring stories about Twitter being down, probably the biggest tech story of the morning. First, this story was on the front page and it got killed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4296416 Then this other story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968…

Popular sites sometimes go down. Who cares.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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post #98

I'm going to put this comment here even though it doesn't belong because I wanted to make people aware and there's nowhere else to put it. Some HN moderator is censoring stories about Twitter being down, probably the biggest tech story of the morning. First, this story was on the front page and it got killed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4296416 Then this other story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968…

yeah. the outages.org mailing list is also whining about it. Google talk is also having problems.

I suspect, though, that instead of getting 'censored' here, that hacker news readers are flagging it as not very interesting.

Come back with a story once they have a 'lessons learned' type document; something telling us what happened.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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post #98

I'm going to put this comment here even though it doesn't belong because I wanted to make people aware and there's nowhere else to put it. Some HN moderator is censoring stories about Twitter being down, probably the biggest tech story of the morning. First, this story was on the front page and it got killed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4296416 Then this other story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968…

http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Yet another twitter outage does not qualify as "gratifying one's intellectual curiosity". Besides, links can get killed if too many people flag them, it's not necessarily moderation.

Anyway, such complaints should not hijack other threads, post a new thread instead.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

#108
post #26

I'm pulling my video editor Shave ( http://shavevideo.com ) out of the Mac App Store for these reasons, though most specifically the lack of paid upgrades. For a $10 video editor that, quite frankly, beats the pants off a lot of crap out there for day to day editing tasks, I can't afford to devote the time and resources it requires to maintain it without it having a baseline level of income. Not having an upgrade pat…

Looks interesting, might have to take a look, don't have a great tool for this. I'd give you $20 if it could remux mkv to mp4 and transcode audio. Just saying..

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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Why wait? It's clear they would love to do this and are just holding off until they think they can get away with it.

Since OS X is a better/simpler choice for many people and has WAY more quality supported apps than Linux has. If Linux became the superior choice for most people, a lot of those people would switch.

I disagree with all of your first sentence.

As a full-time Linux/Django and iOS developer, switching over to the Mac from Ubuntu is f'ing painful.

Linux's reputation is far worse than it deserves.

Re: The Mac App Store’s future of irrelevance

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post #106
post #98

I'm going to put this comment here even though it doesn't belong because I wanted to make people aware and there's nowhere else to put it. Some HN moderator is censoring stories about Twitter being down, probably the biggest tech story of the morning. First, this story was on the front page and it got killed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4296416 Then this other story, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42968…

yeah. the outages.org mailing list is also whining about it. Google talk is also having problems. I suspect, though, that instead of getting 'censored' here, that hacker news readers are flagging it as not very interesting. Come back with a story once they have a 'lessons learned' type document; something telling us what happened.

This is one of the top 10 sites world wide being down for over an hour now.

Why is Google Talk down, which affects a fraction of the users, on the front page but Twitter is being actively censored?

Besides, HN comments are a lot of times more insightful and interesting than the link. We might have gotten a Twitter engineer commenting on what was going on or something else interesting.

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