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Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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The Cultural Revolution did not have theoretically smart, high-achieving young people. Most of the atrocities were done by people who hated the "theoretically smart, high-achieving young people"

> Most of the atrocities were done by people who hated the "theoretically smart, high-achieving young people" No, most of the atrocities were done to eliminate political threats by targeting everyone who had a semblance of power and did not fell in line. Academia was targeted not because of an anti-intellectual push but because they could counter the influence of the new totalitarian regime trying to establish itself…

> No, most of the atrocities were done to eliminate political threats by targeting everyone who had a semblance of power

And what power did most of these professors have if not their minds? This does not go against my assertion, it sounds like a "no" just to say "no"

Read what it was actually like:

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/DOC_0001275005.pdf

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Because your democracy is being run by fiat, and many of those Executive Orders are batshit insane, or just plain illegal. And you seem to be OK with this.

Pretty sure not a single XO has been illegal. If you’d like to supply some proof I’d be more than happy to look at it. I’d be curious which orders you personally find to be “batshit insane?”

The funding one was halted by a federal judge saying it was blatantly unconstitutional. That counts as illegal IMHO.

That's the only one I'm aware of at this time, but there's in the high 10's of lawsuits in progress, so there's time for others to be found similarly.

I suspect the Christian only faith department would also count as illegal eventually.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Honest question for Americans. What do you think the federal government is doing to make you "poorer" that deserves dismantling the government. US income tax is generally lower than other advanced economies. Housing and medical insurance is mainly a state issue.

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The US has a progressive income taxation so they've counterbalanced that through taxing the balance ultimately via inflation,which is regressive against the cash based poor.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Honest question for Americans. What do you think the federal government is doing to make you "poorer" that deserves dismantling the government. US income tax is generally lower than other advanced economies. Housing and medical insurance is mainly a state issue.

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Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Sincere question: are you and I using “democracy” to mean the same thing? What Trump is doing is a reversion to how the federal government was run after the founding and during the 18th century (what’s derisively called the “spoils system”). Trump campaigned with a bunch of people with specific ideas (RFK, Musk, Gabbard, etc.) and then when elected put those people in positions of authority. Here, taking an axe to th…

You’ve neglected any discussion of democracy beyond the executive branch.

Can you expand?

I keep hearing on HN about how the US is being "taken over", that there is a "coup in place" and Musk is a "fascist" and so on (I'm not making these up, these are genuine HN comments in this thread and elsewhere).

I'd like someone to clearly explain to me, an outsider about why such hostility has been ushered in this community ? Please point me to specifics so that I can understand what law(s) are being broken? Why are we seeing blog posts like this "listing names".. like it's September 1, 1939 ?

I've been a member of HN for many years and have never seen this level of panic bubbling up, I've been trying to follow it but it's hard to follow a balanced discussion when I see half the comments downvoted and only one sided conversations are happening, which is quite upsetting for me, since one of the reasons I cherish this community, is because of its ability to provide nuanced discussions.

So if I may, I'd invite you (and others) to please engage in thoughtful discourse, so that I can genuinely be informed and make my own conclusions on the matter.

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> On his personal Substack, he wrote an essay titled “Why I gave up a seven-figure salary to save America,” according to press reports, and described failed U.S. attorney general nominee Matt Gaetz, who withdrew from Congress amid allegations of sexual misconduct, as a “victim” of the deep state. The fact that nobody is stopping these people is the clearest evidence anyone needs that there's no such thing as "the dee…

Democracy is 'good' mainly because it represents a vote of who would win a violent fight, and anticipating that, we can bypass all that and just defer to the victors without bloodshed. As means of violence becomes less equal amongst those granted suffrage, though, democracy becomes less stable as there is no longer clear visibility as to why the losers must defer.

If we weren't easily slaughtered meat sacks, I'd say democracy rather sucks.

Re: Elon Musk's Demolition Crew

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Because your democracy is being run by fiat, and many of those Executive Orders are batshit insane, or just plain illegal. And you seem to be OK with this.

Pretty sure not a single XO has been illegal. If you’d like to supply some proof I’d be more than happy to look at it. I’d be curious which orders you personally find to be “batshit insane?”

His Executive Order blocking birthright citzenship was blocked. And that is batshit insane - literally thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) would suddenly be affected by that EO.

And DOGE. You know they are going in and changing safety systems at the FAA, right? Insane.

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> Oh please. Oh sure, anytime > Good faith requires facts, which this current administration does not use. I don't know, the OP (or GP?) post said they were wanted to continue discussing the issue in good faith. I'll take them at their word until I see them saying something else, what else should we do, downvote and flag everyone to hell? And it seems it's not about the administration having good or bad faith or good…

Yet Trump claimed they (Haitian immigrants) were eating people's dogs and cats. So your first part of the comment could have been an exercise towards food faith, and your latter part, perhaps mildly excusable as an ill attempt at humor in normal times, is for most who read it an attempt to muddy the very clear facts that Trump lies all the time.

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