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Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by jabroni_salad » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:13 AM UTC

rappatic wrote: post #8

The requirement doesn't kick in until 10 million monthly US users. I don't see why this shouldn't apply to smaller businesses.

It's a horse trading thing. You are less likely to get your bill passed if it will impact small businesses. think less about SV startups who know what they're doing and more about some indy barber who buys an off the shelf scheduling assistant -- should they have to bury themselves in legal code first?

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by seattle_spring » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:14 AM UTC

cebert wrote: post #2

I wish this legislation would also apply to AI generated emails, sales outreach, and LinkedIn messages.

LinkedIn would be in shambles if this became law.

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by xnx » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:14 AM UTC

I like that this bill partially implements the second law of robotics:

"1) A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

2) A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law."

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by acomjean » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:15 AM UTC

what if they don't know they are bots like in this short film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VrLQXR7mKU

or any blade runner..

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by cuteboy19 » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:21 AM UTC

cebert wrote: post #2

I wish this legislation would also apply to AI generated emails, sales outreach, and LinkedIn messages.

it should not apply to non interacting “bots”

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by cuteboy19 » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:22 AM UTC

acomjean wrote: post #44

what if they don't know they are bots like in this short film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VrLQXR7mKU or any blade runner..

i wonder if someone has rlhf’d an llm into thinking it is human

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by School-Cotton » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:26 AM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #30

Who wants to bet this ends up in prop-65-like list of disclaimers about алл тхе automation tools used for every message, which will make the messages bigger but won't make them any less frequent?

> алл тхе

“all the”, written in Cyrillic script, in case anyone couldn’t follow.

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by ideashower » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:29 AM UTC

This is a cool website, would love to see more like it in other states.

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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Post by Waterluvian » Fri, Feb 07, 2025, 2:32 AM UTC

“I’m Mr. Meeseeks, look at me!”

Re: California bill would require bots to disclose that they are bots

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