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Post by rcpt »

bdangubic wrote: post #637
Retric wrote: post #627

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Almost a round error comparatively doesn’t mean it’s 0.01%. People used to spend ~30% of their income on mass produced basic staple foods with very little meat they cooked at home. You can live like that on like 1$/day. Median household income is over 80k today so we are talking more than an older of magnitude price reduction. Get regular meal delivery etc and sure you can spend crazy money but it’s not really spendi…

family of 3, never ordered delivery in my life outside of pizza once in a blue moon and eating out no more than twice per month - food bill $1,900-ish / month

You should buy an Instant Pot and learn how to make beans.

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Post by cullenking »

Yajirobe wrote: post #750
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Having slaughtered my fair share of chickens on a relatively small but not back yard operation, there is a much easier way! Buy a t-post (any 3-5 foot rigid metal pole will do but a t-post has perfect geometry). Next, you'll grab your chicken, lay her down on her back or stomach [1], once she has settled down you're going to lay the t-post gently across her spine just a bit behind her skull. Now place your feet on ei…

This is all so brutal. I can’t believe you people are discussing such things so nonchalantly

it's hard to do, but easy to talk about. i've done my fair share of slaughtering and currently have a freezer full of meat birds. i don't like the process (you feel bad, you have to do things that also are instinctually gross to someone not used to it), but i will continue to eat meat because i think it's part of a balanced and healthy diet.

i do respect vegans though - many people don't live by any principles so it's nice to see them on display. my principle on this topic is that if i'm not willing to do it myself, then i probably shouldn't offload it to someone else and still consume the end result.

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Post by cullenking »

ammojamo wrote: post #661
aucisson_masque wrote: post #599

Lots of people suggesting to build chicken coop. i have one, sure it's not much work. 2 minutes every day to grab the egg and bring the food and water, but then every 3 year you got to take the hatchet, grab each chicken, cut right on the neck and then hang it with it's feet while it's bleeding out and flapping its wings. then there are the few occasion where you miss with the hatchet and it cuts half its neck, its h…

Just to offer a different experience, we've kept chooks for years and it's been great. However, we do have a large yard where they are free to range around – I think this is key. In my experience there is no need to kill a chook after 3 years. Average lifespan for a chick is 8-10 years. Egg laying frequency does decrease with age, but there's no need to kill them just because they're slowing down a bit. Our oldest ch…

there is absolutely a reason to kill your chickens that aren't laying - it costs money to feed them. if you don't optimize for price by slaughtering your older hens you will easily be paying > $10 a dozen for eggs.

all bets are off though if you consider chickens pets, instead of livestock.

basic economics for me: 20 chickens, a dozen eggs a day, 30 dozen eggs a month. decent non-organic feed is $20 a bag, organic is $35 a bag. one bag per week if you have the space to do daily free ranging on a decent sized chunk (half acre chicken yard in my case). Round up $0.50 per dozen for incidentals (bedding, repair, replacement chickens semi-regularly due to predation). That's $3 a dozen for non-organic, $5 a dozen for organic.

Drop productivity in half, organic eggs start costing $10 a dozen, and you have to work for those eggs. Cut productivity to 25% and you are even more expensive. In my experience, you are at 50% productivity within 3 years depending on the breed.

Also slaughtered old hens make good soups :)

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Post by nanidin »

kobalsky wrote: post #420
davidw wrote: post #171

I've been fiddling around with the Albertsons API for fun. It's kind of neat to see a whole year's worth of purchases in nicely formatted JSON. I have half an idea to create something like a personal inflation tracker, but I'm still thinking about it. It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actu…

> It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actually happening any more and that therefore we must cut interest rates, or some such. in the end statistics is a science, and results can be cross-referenced with independent sources. you may get away with a bit, but not with much [1]. [1]: https://ww…

And yet we have the saying "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"!

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Post by navane »

xyzzyz wrote: post #751
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This is ignorance at its worst. Smallholder farms across Africa are quite productive if you measure inputs (labor, energy, capital, fertilizer, water, land use) against outputs (calories, nutrition). They are certainly comparable with industrialized agriculture (large-scale monoculture) that is often incredibly wasteful (except when it comes to paying their laborers a living wage). "Modern farming practices" mostly t…

> Smallholder farms across Africa are quite productive if you measure inputs (labor, energy, capital, fertilizer, water, land use) against outputs (calories, nutrition). This sounds intelligent, but is extremely wrong perspective. For example, most of these farms are well known to underuse fertilizer. There is no good reason for it, except in some relatively snall amount of cases where extreme poverty doesn’t leave f…

Seeing like a state (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State) is quite a famous book that has a whole chapter on this, and it does argue that the small holders of Africa have a lot to teach to us. Many have tried western style agriculture in Africa, and many have failed.

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Post by iancmceachern »

buran77 wrote: post #731
iancmceachern wrote: post #729

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So you are telling me poor folks are poor and struggling? As if this isn't known?

> So you are telling me poor folks are poor and struggling? No, I'm telling you that your examples, the "strategy" of getting financial efficiency, and calling it "hedonism" are disconnected from the reality of the people who suffer from this the most. Unlike you those people don't leave dinner on the table because it was too cheap. > As if this isn't known? It doesn't sound like you know know. You're telling a blind…

My advise isn't for those in that situation.

My advise is that many not I'm that situation, maybe you, act and think as if they do need to, but in reality don't.

Others are straight hedonist.

I'm saying don't be either.

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Post by snakeyjake »

qwerpy wrote: post #756
dinkumthinkum wrote: post #743

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All I can come up with is that DEI programs got canceled. It probably feels like oppression if you were previously benefiting from it. As a minority (Asian) I feel the opposite of oppressed.

>As a minority (Asian) I feel the opposite of oppressed.

That's because strong acceptable use polices based on the "E" in "DEI" meant that organizations ranging in size from Meta to Hacker News deleted comments when they turned into "kill the dirty ch**ks" during COVID.

It is now acceptable on Meta to post comments calling trans people mentally ill sexual predators.

Why do you think that, given a crisis requiring a boogeyman-du-jour, it will not one day very soon be acceptable to call for the deaths of the "dirty bat-fucking ch**ks"?

It's already acceptable to use the n-word on twitter.

I'm an upper-middle class property-owning married straight white male with children. Also dogs. And a veteran. And a small business owner.

>>>IEveryone else is up for scapegoating, all it takes is for the current trans boogeyman to lose its effectiveness.

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Post by Larrikin »

hwillis wrote: post #266
jl6 wrote: post #172

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Are small local farms able to keep producing as normal because the birds aren’t getting bird flu or because they’re not testing/killing them?

Bird flu has 95% lethality in chickens and takes ~48 hours to kill. It's not like they can get away with ignoring it. Testing happens when you wake up and half your birds are already dead. That said OP is asserting local costs haven't changed without evidence. Even if that were true (and I don't think it is- local farms are also being hit hard eg duck farming in NY) it probably speaks far more to small operations hav…

I personally don't really like eggs. I only buy them when I need them for ingredients in something I plan to cook soon, so I haven't been tracking their price over time. But we are making a cake this week and had been hearing about the eggs problem for a while now.

Yesterday, eggs were not sold out at my local grocery store. There was a sign saying they may limit purchases. The crappy bottom of the barrel eggs were selling for 9 dollars a dozen. Pretty much all the eggs that touted organic or farm fresh on their containers were going for 4 to 5 a dozen, which seems reasonable. I assume those are from the local farms.

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Post by iancmceachern »

ahoka wrote: post #714
DiscourseFan wrote: post #561

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We in fact do make most decisions in our lives based on finances, you're just not aware of most of them.

We do, but people are maximizing utility and not minimizing costs.

Not really.

Were focused on cutting coupons and not growing food in victory gardens.

We do a performance, a performative version of cost savings that is veiled in corporate marketing tactics and such.

If you were truly focused on minimizing cost you would learn to be self sufficient. Sometimes that's costly, but pays off.

We now frame things in terms of corporate marketing and our whole economic "complex"

It's like you think you are saving money by buying generic soda, then you realize you don't even need soda.

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Post by iancmceachern »

hattmall wrote: post #740
iancmceachern wrote: post #710

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Agreed. I've found, in my own life, that when I'm hyper focused on optimizing things for cost I often get far less "out" of things. I end up not eating my whole dinner because I don't like it. But if I let go a bit, things are actually in aggregate more financially efficient when I'm getting more of what I pay for, if that makes sense. It only works for people who are built this way though. Not hedonists.

It does not make sense,to me, can you elaborate? I know I spend too much time / effort cost optimizing. Interested in reasonable ways to justify not doing so!

Just let go of it.

Logic yourself there.

Calculate a cost of your time, maybe it's your salary, maybe you come about it a bit differently.

Then if you spend 10 mins saving 8 cents on Ramen, and you like the cheaper Ramen less, you have a paradigm within which you can objectively (not emotionally) determine if you are wasting your time (therefore money) on a false optimization, or actually doing good for yourself.

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