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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I think this is a good summary: https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-developer-goog-blog-asse...

- Experimental™ - Preview™ - Coming soon™

- Generally Available? Available?? Simply showing a checkmark???

- In Experimental? Coming soon??

Make it make sense.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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There's nothing wrong with (and in fact much to be said in favor of) a "no politics" rule. When I was growing up it was common advice to not discuss politics/religion in mixed company. At one point I thought that was stupid fuddy-duddy advice, because people are adults and can act reasonably even if they disagree. But as I get older, I realize that I was wrong: people really, really can't control their emotions when…

As an outsider's perspective: This aspect of American culture seems self-reinforcing. It's not like things can't get heated when people in much of the rest of the world discuss politics. But if the subject isn't entirely verboten, adults will have some practice in agreeing to disagree, and moving on. With AI this particular cultural export has gone from a quaint oddity, to something that, as a practical matter, can b…

I don't know, I compulsively read Wikivoyage pages and pretty much every page I read says "don't talk politics with the locals".

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post #166

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As an outsider's perspective: This aspect of American culture seems self-reinforcing. It's not like things can't get heated when people in much of the rest of the world discuss politics. But if the subject isn't entirely verboten, adults will have some practice in agreeing to disagree, and moving on. With AI this particular cultural export has gone from a quaint oddity, to something that, as a practical matter, can b…

I don't know, I compulsively read Wikivoyage pages and pretty much every page I read says "don't talk politics with the locals".

I've actually travelled a lot (ground truthing pre WGS84 map datums and geophysical exploration) and both things can be true;

* locals everywhere discuss politics between themselves, many are able to discuss politics 'reasonably' but things can and do get heated, AND

* it's good advice as a traveller to not get drawn into political discussions with locals. Listen by all means, going further can be a bad move.

I recall a radiometric survey in Nor'Western India when an underground mini nuke was detonated near our aircraft .. that got rather tense, particularly when the others were detonated and Pakistan responded.

Not a good time to discuss where the border ran.

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> Talk about shipping the org chart. Good expression. I’ve been thinking about a way to say exactly this.

A pithy reworking of Conway's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

Subtle takeaway from that article is that he's stil alive and publishing stuff!

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I use all top of the line models everyday. Not for coding, but for general "cognitive" tasks like research, thinking, analysis, writing etc. What Google calls Gemini Pro 2.0 has been my most favorite model for the past couple of months. I think o1/4o come pretty close. Those are kinda equals, with a slight preference for Gemini. Claude has fallen behind, clearly. DeepSeek is intriguing. It excels occassionally where others won't. For consistency's sake, Gemini Pro 2.0 is amazing.

I highly recommend using it via https://aistudio.google.com/. Gemini app has some additional bells and whistles, but for some reason quality isn't always on par with aistudio. Also Gemini app seems to have more filters -- it seems more shy answering controversial topics. Just some general impressions.

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Today I wasted 1 hour looking in how to use or where to find "Deep Research”. I could not. I have the business workplace standard, which contains the Gemini advance, not sure whether I need a VPN, pay a separate AI product, or even pay a higher workplace tier or what the heck is going on at all. There are so many confusing products interrelated and lack of focus everywhere that I really do not know anymore whether it…

You need to pay for Gemini to access it. In my experience, it's not worth it. So much potential in the experience, but the AI isn't good enough. I'm curious about the OpenAI alternative, but am not willing to pay $200/month.

Deep research in chatgpt pro is nice. It’ll go fetch api docs (and github examples) and make your code more correct.

Saved me the headache of manually going thru pages of doc

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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I use all top of the line models everyday. Not for coding, but for general "cognitive" tasks like research, thinking, analysis, writing etc. What Google calls Gemini Pro 2.0 has been my most favorite model for the past couple of months. I think o1/4o come pretty close. Those are kinda equals, with a slight preference for Gemini. Claude has fallen behind, clearly. DeepSeek is intriguing. It excels occassionally where…

do you mean "Gemini 2.0 Pro Experimental 02-05"? too many similarly named models
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