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> Antibiotics are not widely used. There are many regulations, to use them at all you need a vet to sign off. This isn't true, some types of antibiotics are routinely used as a preventative measure on chicken farms. > Both FDA and the World Health Organization (WHO) rank antibiotics relative to their importance in human medicine. The highest ranking is “critically important.” Antibiotics in this category are used spa…
> maintain poultry health and welfare That's a little deceptive. The antibiotics widely used by the industry are used for growth promotion. I don't know how it works, but I don't believe it's because they're keeping the birds healthy--i.e. treating infections. Some sources suggest part of the mechanism is by suppressing otherwise healthy or benign gut microbiota that compete for calories. Antibiotics have been used t…
Of course it's at least a little deceptive, it's from an industry association PR page. When I said anti-biotics are used as a preventative measure, that wasn't meant to exclude their use for other non-medical purposes, but that's a more complicated argument.
I posted that, not because it is an unbiased source, but because if even that biased of a source admits it, then it's hard to dispute.
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#623How are the prices so out of whack from one area to the next? I just bought eggs for $3/dozen last weekend.
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I’m not sure what all this is about. You have one party’s “extremism” which takes the form of bluehaired Twitterati saying stupid shit and, I guess, not getting sufficiently disowned by actual political leaders? On the other hand you have an ongoing ACTUAL ideological purge of our government’s personnel, records, budget, and data, complete with watchwords (like “women”) and loyalty tests.
Sure. I spoke to my uncle about this when he was convalescing in a nursing home. We live in New York, neither of our votes counted. I voted for Harris, he voted for Trump. He did not see it as a black or white thing, he saw it as a comparison. He didn't see Harris as giving any reason why he should vote for her other than, maybe, she is a woman. The message that you shouldn't vote for Trump didn't resonate. Personall…
You're still talking about the election. I am not. I am talking about actual political actions being taken.
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I don't think it's a myth compared to unwashed eggs. You should try leaving washed eggs out on the counter for 20+ days (incubation for a chicken) and see.
I've left them for 2 months (I found a big sale, so I bought a bunch). The yolk broke easily when I opened the egg, but it was perfectly fine to eat. And it was not small and dried out as implied by someone in the thread.
Food borne illnesses are not a guarantee, and doing the thing the FDA calls dangerous a hundred times might still mean you never get sick, because you got lucky or some other safety caught you.
I have eaten genuinely year old (and older) eggs with no issues. That doesn't mean it is a myth that eggs only last 5 weeks in the fridge, it just means that I was putting myself in extra danger out of a weird sense of frugality and laziness.
I've also eaten pounds and pounds of raw cookie dough and not gotten sick, but that doesn't mean raw cookie dough doesn't have an inherent salmonella danger (ironically for this conversation it mostly comes from the flour!)
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Which is not scalable for the entire big city. My parents are organic market gardeners, and there is simply no way that model could scale up enough to feed that many people cheaply. Food budgets would have to go back to the 1940's or earlier - where they were a significant fraction of take home pay. Now they are almost a rounding error comparatively. I don't necessarily think that would be a bad thing. A lot of the a…
Now they are almost a rounding error comparatively. ballparking I’d need about low 7-figure after tax pay for my food budget to qualify as a rounding error…
Almost a round error comparatively doesn’t mean it’s 0.01%.
People used to spend ~30% of their income on mass produced basic staple foods with very little meat they cooked at home. You can live like that on like 1$/day. Median household income is over 80k today so we are talking more than an older of magnitude price reduction.
Get regular meal delivery etc and sure you can spend crazy money but it’s not really spending that money on food itself.
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Are eggs regularly transported long distances in the USA? I don't think I've seen eggs from outside Denmark for sale in Denmark, though many other things (cheese, meat) are. If people in Minnesota (same population) aren't regularly buying eggs from out of state, then the comparison with Denmark holds.
> I don't think I've seen eggs from outside Denmark for sale in Denmark, That is because of the strict rules regarding salmonella. Danish chicken farmers will test for salmonella and kill any population of chicken found to have salmonella, leaving our eggs "guaranteed" free of salmonella. Any other country that wish to sell eggs in Denmark will need to be able to make the same guarantee. This is one of the few except…
Sweden, Finland and Norway seem to have the same checks as Denmark [1] but we don't see their eggs for sale here either.
But from a quick search, it looks like I've happened only to live in egg-exporting countries within the EU, which explains why I've never seen it. Even so, whole eggs don't seem to be transported great distances — most imports and exports are liquid or dried egg.
[1] https://food.ec.europa.eu/food-safety/biological-safety/food...
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Why wouldn't you pick the time when the public would be convinced a price rise is justifiable in order to raise prices (on a fairly inelastic good?) That isn't what you need a conspiracy for; the biggest would just press release that they were doing it, and the rest would follow. You might need a conspiracy to keep smaller producers from defecting from the price the biggest are setting, but the defectors wouldn't act…
Notice how that's not a story about price-fixing of a commodity but of a (delicious) intermediate industrial product destined for ultra-sophisticated buyers. There's no story about people price-fixing potatoes. Also notice how the prices don't move up and down with incidents of potato blight or whatever. Further: for this to be explanatory, you have to show why, after HPAI outbreaks subside... prices come back down .
> There's no story about people price-fixing potatoes.
Like these people? https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/closed-settl...
> for this to be explanatory, you have to show why, after HPAI outbreaks subside... prices come back down.
It doesn't matter if prices sometimes go down, what matters is why. As it turns out, the answer to that is collusion. https://apnews.com/article/egg-producers-price-gouging-lawsu...
When companies work together to set prices they can lower them a little sometimes (while still increasing their profits) and ruthlessly gouge the hell of out consumers the rest of the time hopefully without raising too much suspicion.
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#630Fake/Vegetarian eggs are priced the same here, so I made the switch and am only using fake eggs now for most of my cooking.
Which one do you use? I was looking up the Just Egg brand in the US and it was more expensive than the free range chicken eggs brand we use. We've been trying have a more plant based diet but just stick with chicken eggs for now because we don't use it every day.
My local grocery store only has 1 brand, so I use that one. I don't know the brand, but apparently others say it's "Just Egg". I have no idea. I don't pay attention. If I ever got another option, I'd try that one too and then perhaps care :)
I agree if the pricing wasn't basically the same I wouldn't have even attempted the switch.
I just happened to notice the cost of eggs going up again and saw fake eggs at the same price and thought, well I'll try those, why not!