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DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by paradox460 »

slowmovintarget wrote: post #9
anothername12 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article outlines some reporting changes (from OMB to White House chief of staff??) to get around that apparently

The article is fairly sloppy and uses lots of scare-quotes, but basically it's saying that communications for the DOGE team will report in to the Chief of Staff making them subject to the Presidential Records Act instead of the general reporting conditions for the OMB. The article also states that 'DOGE is gutting...' when that's not true. They're advising the President, and the President is cleaning house. They inve…

Exactly. I made this comparison elsewhere, but it still fits. They are akin to the US Chemical safety board. They have investigative powers, but that's it. They can't actually change anything, just issue recommendations.

Now, USCSB makes some incredible YouTube videos, I somehow doubt Doge will do the same

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by jedilord »

code_runner wrote: post #41

DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

How is it an illegal operation?

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by stanleykm »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #50
code_runner wrote: post #41

DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

Is it actually illegal if it's the pet project of the president, who has been given absolute power by the rest of the government?

The president isn’t a king.

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Post by BryantD »

rayiner wrote: post #26
BryantD wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The President decides..." within the limits of his constitutional powers. Which do not include, for example, impoundment or unilaterally shutting down agencies authorized by Congressional acts.

People are throwing around the word "impoundment" lately. But it has a very specific meaning, and no impoundment has happened.

Judge John McConnell disagrees with you. His decision placing a hold on the spending freeze cites the Impoundment Control Act as part of his finding that the lawsuit is likely to succeed on the merits.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by jklinger410 »

code_runner wrote: post #41

DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

> DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation

This narrative infuriates me. Either you are right, and entire wings of our government are abetting a coup, or you are wrong, and our government has huge back doors that no one is watching.

Both realities reveal something urgently broken with the United States. In a way that should scare the entire western world to its core.

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by bpodgursky »

jfkrrorj wrote: post #46
code_runner wrote: post #41

DOGE is obviously a completely illegal operation, and I really do hope it will be get reined in before they can cause an issue so big that _even trump's croniest cronies_ have to admit what is going on. For someone who claims to love freedom of speech, Elon is pretty quick to determine who can say what, and how much access to _his_ data people have.

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I mean, there are many political leaders who would put Musk in prison in a heartbeat for the DOGE stuff. It's not paranoia. This is separate from "do you think this is illegal", but it's absolutely reasonable, from their perspective, to think that "everyone is after them".

Re: DOGE employees ordered to stop using Slack

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Post by wkat4242 »

etchalon wrote: post #52
tester756 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Discord seems to be way better Teams are good enough

No one I know who has been migrated to Teams has been happy about that change.

+1.

The only thing better about teams is that it comes 'free' with Microsoft 365. Though you can now take that without it for about 1.50 per month less. But slack costs a lot more.

On paper they can do the same but slack is just so much better in terms of UX. Though i do hate that they dropped the IRC bridge. I have been active in slack communities a lot less as a result. I always have my IRC open but not slack.

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