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Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#131

That 1M tokens context window alone is going to kill a lot of RAG use cases. Crazy to see how we went from 4K tokens context windows (2023 ChatGPT-3.5) to 1M in less than 2 years.

That's not really my experience. Error rate goes up the more stuff you cram into the context, and processing gets both slower and more expensive with the amount of input tokens.

I'd say it makes sense to do RAG even if your stuff fits into context comfortably.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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post #25

Benchmarks or it didn't happen. Anything better than https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard ? My experience with the Gemini 1.5 models has been positive. I think Google has caught up.

Some of my saved bookmarks:

- https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

- https://www.prollm.ai/leaderboard

- https://www.vellum.ai/llm-leaderboard

- https://lmarena.ai/?leaderboard

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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Indeed, you can facilitate talking politics without having a set opinion. It's a fine line, but it is something the BBC managed to do for a very long time. The BBC does not itself present an opinion on Politics yet facilitates political discussion through shows like Newsnight and The Daily Politics (rip).

BBC is great at talking about the Gaza situation. Makes it seem like people are just dying from natural causes all the time.

Australia's ABC makes it fairly clear who is killing who but also manages to avoid taking sides.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#135

That 1M tokens context window alone is going to kill a lot of RAG use cases. Crazy to see how we went from 4K tokens context windows (2023 ChatGPT-3.5) to 1M in less than 2 years.

That's not really my experience. Error rate goes up the more stuff you cram into the context, and processing gets both slower and more expensive with the amount of input tokens. I'd say it makes sense to do RAG even if your stuff fits into context comfortably.

Try exp-1206. That thing works on large context.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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post #46

What is the model I get at gemini.google.com (i.e. through my Workspace subscription)? It says "Gemini Advanced" but there are no other details. No model selection option. I find the lack of clarity very frustrating. If I want to try Google's "best" model, should I be purchasing something? AI Studio seems focused around building an LLM wrapper app, but I just want something to answer my questions. Edit: what I've lea…

changes must be rolling out now, I can see 3 Gemini 2.0 models in the dropdown, with blue "new" badges. screenshot: https://beeimg.com/images/g25051981724.png

If you subscribe to Gemini the menu looks like this, with the addition of 2.0 Pro.

https://imgur.com/a/xZ7hzag

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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post #103

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If you have the need to paste long documents, why don't you just upload the file at that point?

Friction.

Claude automatically uploads it as "Pasted text" if it is too long that you paste into the textarea. Works either way anyways.

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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This works on my personal Google account, but not on my workspace one. So I guess there's no access to 2.0 Pro then? I'm ok trying out Flash for now and see if it fixes the mistakes I ran into yesterday. Edit: it does not. It continues to miss the fact that I'm (incorrectly) passing in a scaled query tensor to scaled_dot_product_attention. o3-mini-high gets this right.

As someone with over a decade of Google Apps management history, my experiences is Workspace customers are practically always the last to get the shiny new features. Quite frustrating.

Isn't that generally how it goes? Windows Vista was tested on consumers to make 7 Enterprise appropriate?

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

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They actually have two "studios" Google AI Studio and Google Cloud Vertex AI Studio And both have their own documentation, different ways of "tuning" the model. Talk about shipping the org chart.

> Talk about shipping the org chart. Good expression. I’ve been thinking about a way to say exactly this.

A pithy reworking of Conway's Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law

Re: Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

#140

I tried voice chat. It's very good, except for the politics We started talking about my plans for the day, and I said I was making chili. G asked if I have a recipe or if I needed one. I said, I started with Obama's recipe many years ago and have worked on it from there. G gave me a form response that it can't talk politics. Oh, I'm not talking politics, I'm talking chili. G then repeated form response and tried to c…

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