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Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Chinese have far better and cheaper EV cars. Getting spare parts for Tesla in Europe is a nightmare!

Europe has instituted tariffs for Chinese vehicles up to 35%. Given the low cost of Chinese vehicles, this may not be a big barrier (like in the US where it's 100% tariff).

Other than that, I completely agree - and hope that Europe manufacturing can catch up to China on EVs.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #9

FSD makes Tesla superior to any car out there. No other car comes even close. Although I heard that FSD was already crippled in eu so maybe they aren't missing out as much.

Why is this downvoted?

You can disagree without downvoting this, it's a reasonable take

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Gee I wonder what could have caused this? I’m glad I was early to the party when we cancelled ours when Elon insinuated in a tweet there might be a valid reason for Nancy Pelosi’s husband to have been hit in the head with a hammer in his home. Every Tesla I see now all I see is a FascistMobile.

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Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if this were true, I'd be willing to pay more to avoid financially supporting the CCP.

There are a lot of people in Europe that prefer CCP over what the republican party has become.

China ATM seems to be a smaller threat to Europe than US.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some level of EU-China rapprochement as a result.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #70

I live in San Mateo County, CA and in my street 3 neighbors have sold their Teslas within the last 8 weeks and switched to other brands.

I’ll be selling our Tesla as soon as other brands have NACS. Specifically Rivian is what I’m looking for and have a preorder on an R2

The 2025 model of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has NACS and is my favorite alternative in terms of looks, features, and price. Rivian has been in a different price category so I have a hard time believing the $45k starting price.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #46

I see this drop across Europe and Canada but the US is still alright. For some reason though, any negative news about Tesla doesn't reflect in the stock price. Wonder if the US market is propping it up, xAI nebulous or may be just musk's incessant tweeting.

No company with US President on its asset list is going to tank on stock market.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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> Most European EV sales that aren't Tesla are European brands like Bikes are still "vehicles". Problem is that stuff like Tesla are luxuries, we simply can not afford that! Bikes are an alternative on the same market. An alternative that is heavily advertised by our governments! If there is a significant difference between car and bike, you should tell our government! Not everyone has resources to treat their car as…

Absolutely, yet at the end of the day Electric Bikes are not treated as EVs in colloquial conversation and are not a direct substitute for a Car in most cases. And I'm sure yk this too.

It is direct substitute! You can absolutely carry family of 5 and furniture on bike! See Denmark and India!

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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Depends. Do they have the policies the voting public want? Humans will routinely overlook bad window dressing like prejudice and authoritarianism if they get some policies they like out of the deal. This has shown itself to be true over and over. If Dieter, 63, from some economically-disadvantaged part of Germany gets a promise to do something about "those people" coming and enjoying the German welfare state and to f…

This is a matter so serious to Germans that most Germans won't overlook it.

It's interesting that you say that, because the former GDR is where AfD is having the most success. Y'know, the part of the country that was run as a puppet of the Soviet Union and was more stridently "anti-fascist" for the majority of the postwar period? [0]

As recently as 2023 they were the second-strongest party in Germany according to the polls. [1]

Most Germans today only know of the horrors of Nazism from the history books. They have no real experience with it. There is nothing special about any particular nationality that makes them immune to the scourge of reanimated fascism. The Soviet Union bore horrible losses to the Nazis in WWII and the largest former SSR, Russia, is more-or-less a fascist state today. A salute isn't as alienating as "being left behind" by the world.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_European_Parliament_elect...

[1]https://www.dw.com/en/far-right-afd-emerges-as-germanys-seco...

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #93

I see no reason for this to get flagged. Not every heated comment section deserves a flag, and no one is insulting each other. If it’s done by the mods, I think we deserve an explanation.

Probably the baity title was part of it. We've replaced that with the more neutral URL slug now.

Edit: oh and yes, users flagged it. That's nearly always the case with submissions marked [flagged]. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html.

Re: Tesla sales plummet in the UK, France, and Germany

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post #109
post #93

I see no reason for this to get flagged. Not every heated comment section deserves a flag, and no one is insulting each other. If it’s done by the mods, I think we deserve an explanation.

Probably the baity title was part of it. We've replaced that with the more neutral URL slug now. Edit: oh and yes, users flagged it. That's nearly always the case with submissions marked [flagged]. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html .

Fair enough, thanks for the reply
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