Live data from Hacker News

Eggs US – Price – Chart

tradingeconomics.com

481–490 of 810 posts

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#481
post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu. Chickens get it from wild birds that land near them. States are going to have to repeal those laws and confine chickens in sealed buildings to protect them.

I would say that the H5 bird flu virus the the proximate cause of bird flu

Maybe I'm using the word wrong, but H5 is the root cause, while free range is the proximate cause.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#482
Setting aside the recent price increase, I'm shocked that their data shows a price of 0.77 in May 2023. A dozen eggs for less than a dollar, and that was after the worst official inflation had already happened?

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eggs in the US, Canada, Japan, Scandinavia, and a couple other countries are washed, which removes a layer that seals the egg. Eggs are a major vector for salmonella contamination; washing them materially reduces the incidence rates. It is not egg specific. The countries that wash their eggs have atypically strong standards for bacterial contamination hygiene in food processing. Many food products from Europe are pro…

Europeans do not wash their eggs like the Americans, because they believe that this is a poor method for preventing Salmonella contamination, which has the serious drawback of increasing the chance that the eggs will not be safe for consumption when stored for a too long time. In Europe, poultry vaccination against Salmonella is the preferred method. In most places Salmonella occurrences are exceedingly rare. In gene…

There's some evidence that livestock vaccination accelerates viral pathogen evolution, similar to antibiotics with bacteria. Even with vaccination, modern sanitation and isolation procedures would and should still be required.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#484
post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an absolute financial standpoint it might be hard to justify eggs from backyard chickens, though once you realize that they can eat something like 25% of their feed can be grass or clippings, and that some percentage can be redirected household waste (think: peels, food waste, etc) it becomes much more favorable. As you mentioned, most treat them like pets which means they get to learn how long-lived chickens ca…

I grew up on a (very) small farm - I still go to throw apple cores out of the window, as when I was younger the was always /something/ that would be happy for the treat. All dinner scraps were saved (or rather taken straight out), and all the windfall and rotten apples were happily eaten by the sheep, cow, geese and chickens. I really hate throwing food away now, really pains me!

One of the things that we've been thinking about is when we're at scale (I would say scale is 50,000+ Coops in the field) I would love to build a circular food waste system where we use food expiring / thrown out from grocery stores to feed our Coop member's chickens. Then we'll do partnerships where our members can sell excess backyard-to-table eggs back to the grocery stores.

Most people don't get that eggs usually are 30-60 days old when you buy them at the grocery store and they have to travel up to 1000 miles to get there in cold storage.

Want to know how old your eggs are? On every egg carton there's a 3 digit number from 1 to 365. That is the day of the year the producer of eggs handed them off to the distributor. Producers have up to 30 days to hand it off to distributor and the distributor has an additional 30 days to hand off to retailer. Kinda wild!

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's just greed. A couple years ago Cal-Maine Foods, whose birds were never infected at all, raised their prices anyway and their profits went up 718% https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/business/egg-profits-cal-main...

Why is it that egg producer greed/generosity matches well with the times when there is an egg supply shortage/surfeit?

it doesn't. The largest egg producer in the nation had no infected birds. There was no shortage. The companies just conspired to restrict supply so that they could gouge consumers and stuff their pockets. They were ordered to pay millions in fines because of it (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/egg-suppliers-ordered-to-pay-17...)

They successfully tricked you into thinking that their prices are set by supply and demand. They're probably not the only company fooling you either. For just one other example, literal tons of unsold/unworn, perfectly wearable and desirable clothing gets shipped overseas, burned, or thrown into the ocean or landfills. The excess supply of clothing is so vast that it's now a form of pollution (https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/chile...). If clothing prices were set by supply and demand they'd be paying us to take the clothes off the rack. Supply and demand are a good explanation of economics for grade schoolers, but it doesn't explain the world we live in.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#486

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have lost 2 flocks of chickens to a combination of raccoons, foxes, and skunks. Interestingly enough none of those could kill my turkeys - they are big enough to fight them off I guess. They don't lay as many eggs though. It is a lot of work, but after my last group was killed off 2 months I have not impressed by store eggs, so I'm planning on re-enforcing my coop so I can get another group of them soon.

Do skunks hunt chickens? We lost ours when we were a kid to raccoons and weasels. The later being better suited to getting into the coop. Our neighbor's chickens were devoured by black bears twice. They had one wily chicken that managed to escape both events however.

I've never seen one actually kill a chicken but I killed one a little bit ago that was in there eating a carcass. And that's what I've seen come sniffing around the traps I leave. I've trapped 2 skunks in the last year - only 1 raccoon, and he was able to make an escape. Smartest animals I've had to battle in the wild.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#487
post #271
post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were actually impossible to have affordable eggs without confining chickens to tiny cages for their entire lives, that would be a damning indictment of our entire food system. But luckily that isn't actually the case. The price difference between cage-free and "caged" eggs is negligible. I'm in New York City, not known for its local egg production, and I can still get cage-free eggs for $4/dozen. Kroker/Walmart…

I think the most brutal thing is when the male chicks are immediately sent into a shredder damn. Out of sight out of mind That's where I can be a proponent of lab-grown meat without consciousness

My rooster was a jerk, but he deserved to die the way he did, which was the way he lived: picking fights with things that could kill him in an instant if they bothered to care. I'm glad that he died fighting the beak and talons of an osprey or bald eagle, and not to the remorseless (literal) machinery of market efficiency.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#488

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actually happening any more and that therefore we must cut interest rates, or some such. Like when the BLS overstated payrolls by 818k!! in March of last year, the largest negative revision in 15 years? And then the Fed did an emergency 50bps rate cut in…

> Like when the BLS overstated payrolls by 818k!! So one Meta SRE? Is this supposed to be a lot?

818k jobs, not 818k USD

https://www.bls.gov/ces/notices/2024/2024-preliminary-benchm...

They're usually within +/- 0.1% for the estimate, that time it was 0.5% off

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#489

[flagged]

No, the snark is because it was a huge campaign item which didn't make any sense because: 1) The president doesn't have a magic dial to bring down prices, and 2) Trump loves tariffs which have inflationary effects no matter how you spin it So all the complaints about high prices was just for show since they don't actually care. EDIT: 3) Inflation was a global phenomenon and the U.S. was actually outperforming most co…

I saw a Republican (not a politician) pushed on the above points in a debate. Their response was that America should be doing exceptionally better than other countries, not merely better.

You might think that this isn't a very satisfying answer for those who aren't already onboard.

I'm not saying that this is a steel-man rational argument for Republicans, but I think it is a popular narrative to quell cognitive dissonance within their ranks (applied to other issues as well).

The pain is easier to endure if you truly believe that the pain is for your own benefit.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

#490

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If people didn't change their votes, election outcomes would always be the same. This is only true if the composition of the electorate never changes, which of course it does: people become, and stop being, eligible voters all timhe time, and those that remain eligible change constituencies. Even if each individual’s voting behavior was constant, election results would change all the time.

Of course it changes. Just not that quickly. We went from Biden to Trump: do you want to explain that with electoral composition?

> Of course it changes.

That's literally the opposite of your original claim.

> We went from Biden to Trump: do you want to explain that with electoral composition?

If I wanted to do that, I probably would have actually claimed that particular change could be explained that way.

Post reply on HN