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Post by returningfory2 »

ge96 wrote: post #332
toast0 wrote: post #325

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Sure, it's brutal; but roosters don't get along. You would have to have a huge amount of space to raise all the males. For mammals, you can castrate the males and raise them for meat, but that's not feasable for birds.

A messed up thought is I wonder if they have looked at trying to get chickens to produce only female chicks not sure how some hormone or the eggs are injected without compromising integrity

My understanding is that the main improvement being implemented is determining the sex before the eggs hatch, and destroying the eggs.

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Post by silisili »

bombcar wrote: post #429
silisili wrote: post #275

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Ah yes, typically suburbs. Cities that adopt it generally have regulations around it, such as needing an inspection and nominally priced permit. The inspection just makes sure it's sanitary and follows certain rules about distance from house and whatnot. I definitely don't advise raising chickens in an apartment or some such.

Most places that allow them don't have much in the way of inspection, etc, until you start selling the eggs. Amusingly enough, rural towns are more likely to prohibit backyard chickens than suburbs of major cities these days. This is because if you want chickens in a rural area, the assumption is you'll buy just outside town; the people who moved into town don't want to hear roosters (which are often banned or severe…

Noticed that too. The two rural towns near me bans any poultry with under 5 acres, which is essentially the entire town. Luckily I live right outside their limits.

RE: roosters, a lot of cities that permit backyard chickens do not allow roosters as they're considered a bit of a nuisance. As I'm sure you're aware(though I've found many people aren't), roosters are not required for the keeping of chickens nor the production of eggs.

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Post by mrweasel »

Symbiote wrote: post #227
azinman2 wrote: post #140

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But the population is about 57x smaller. So 17.5k chickens would be equivalent in terms of impact.

Are eggs regularly transported long distances in the USA? I don't think I've seen eggs from outside Denmark for sale in Denmark, though many other things (cheese, meat) are. If people in Minnesota (same population) aren't regularly buying eggs from out of state, then the comparison with Denmark holds.

> I don't think I've seen eggs from outside Denmark for sale in Denmark,

That is because of the strict rules regarding salmonella. Danish chicken farmers will test for salmonella and kill any population of chicken found to have salmonella, leaving our eggs "guaranteed" free of salmonella. Any other country that wish to sell eggs in Denmark will need to be able to make the same guarantee. This is one of the few exceptions for the free movements of goods within the EU.

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Post by gretch »

colonial wrote: post #109

Yup, bird flu moment. I'm very glad my family put up a chicken coop in our backyard years ago; we get a ~carton a day, and they last forever even outside the fridge due to the natural "sealant" still being intact. Hopefully store prices will come down as the year goes on and flocks bounce back.

I've been thinking about this for a while as well

A question if you have time to answer - How many birds per sq meter do you have? What's your total land area? And how do you deal with accumulation of chicken poop?

Thanks

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Post by bombcar »

theonething wrote: post #243
oaththrowaway wrote: post #188

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I have lost 2 flocks of chickens to a combination of raccoons, foxes, and skunks. Interestingly enough none of those could kill my turkeys - they are big enough to fight them off I guess. They don't lay as many eggs though. It is a lot of work, but after my last group was killed off 2 months I have not impressed by store eggs, so I'm planning on re-enforcing my coop so I can get another group of them soon.

> I have not impressed by store eggs Curious to know what differences do you discern between store and fresh eggs? Not doubting you, just curious to know.

Go here: https://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/chicks.html and click "good/better/best" for egg production.

Note the wide variety. When you're doing a backyard chicken coop, you can pick whatever you want, for whatever reason (Rhode Island Red for hardiness, say, or a combo for variety). So not only do you have feed variation, you have breed variation, which can contribute to taste differences.

You also have freshness, as you use the eggs within a day or so of laying.

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Post by jeffbee »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #252
ars wrote: post #173

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Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu. Chickens get it from wild birds that land near them. States are going to have to repeal those laws and confine chickens in sealed buildings to protect them.

> Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu Source? Why is it only American free-range egg farms are being affected, while Canada and Mexico’s are being spared?

Wild birds are indeed the main way that avian influenza spreads, however `ars` is just grinding some axe of theirs. California does not have a free-range chicken regulation. Virtually all commercial chicken flocks in California are already housed indoors. The California "cage-free" regulation only enforces minimal standards against cruelty. It essentially codifies these industry guidelines: https://uepcertified.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/CF-UEP-G...

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Post by danem »

misantroop wrote: post #280
ars wrote: post #196

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That's actually not true. Bird flu comes from wild birds, not factory farming. Chickens get it when wild birds land near them due to free range laws. The solution (possibly temporary) is to confine the chickens in sealed buildings so they can't contact the wild birds.

And the reason why it spreads so well is still concentrated industrial farming.

So you're suggesting there's some other viable model of egg production that would deliver eggs at 2021 prices? People want cheap eggs. Saying, "well if we just adopted a decentralized, more resource intensive model we wouldn't have problems with bird flu" doesn't address that concern.

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Post by bombcar »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #438
declan_roberts wrote: post #393

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Is that true even right now in the winter? My hens are basically pensioners at this point. I'm planning on refreshing the flock this spring.

what will it happen with the old hens?

Most layers do ok the first year, great the second, and then taper off. If you have old crockpot recipes, they can taste great after egg production drops off.

But they can keep laying for quite some time.

You can reduce the feed costs by letting them graze (though even a few chickens will lay waste to an average sized backyard if given the chance) and/or using household food waste.

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