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Post by pton_xd »

orev wrote: post #111
1970-01-01 wrote: post #63

Eggs store very well when refrigerated and are naturally optimal in terms of physical volume. Buy eggs in bulk and store them in a large mixing bowl or other round container in your refrigerator.

Eggs have famously short shelf life, even in the refrigerator. They’re not going to last more than a month if you’re lucky. The egg cartons they’re sold in are already the most optimized way to store them. Moving them into something else doesn’t make any sense.

I'd call a month in the fridge a pretty long shelf life. An open container of chicken stock barely lasts a week.

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Digit-Al wrote: post #327
tcdent wrote: post #197

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I've been paying almost $11 for them.

Wow! That's crazy. Here in the UK, the most expensive eggs in my local supermarket - which are Clarence Court Burdord Brown eggs - are only the equivalent of $5.08 per dozen. Those are the posh, expensive, eggs that only those with a bit of extra cash in their pocket, and a desire to eat more healthily, would buy.

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Post by GeoAtreides »

mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

someone is leaving money on the table

no reason not to hike up the prices: a. if everyone is doing it b. if the demand > supply

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Post by mplanchard »

bombcar wrote: post #399
mplanchard wrote: post #350

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I was wondering how I could provide evidence for you other than walking to the grocery and taking a picture, but I found at least one of our local farms that has their prices online: https://www.maplewindfarm.com/collections/retail-store -- I'd expect it would be quite easy for them to change their prices on their own storefront and in their farmstand, where I often buy their eggs. A dozen large eggs there right now…

Anecdotes aren't data, but I'll chime in to agree - the locally sourced eggs have gone up in the last few years, but only from like $4.99 to $5.59. The "generic egg" have gone from $0.25 a dozen during some price war 6-7 years ago to $6.99. That price has caused the local eggs to sell out first where they used to always be available.

Just to be clear, I never claimed to have data. I said "fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here," "here" being where I live. The whole discussion is based on that anecdote. GP noted that I made that assertion without evidence, so I was just trying to provide evidence that I wasn't inventing it out of thin air.

I suspect that the combination of our and other anecdotes in the thread may suggest though that there is some merit to the hypothesis that small, local farms are more resilient to this kind of mass pandemic, although it may vary from region to region, especially with the number and quality of local farms, which is probably much higher where I live than some other rural states and/or in major metropolitan areas.

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Post by tshaddox »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #110
afavour wrote: post #84

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This is also a great defense against something like bird flu. When you centralize operations a disease can spread through a population like wildfire. When it's a number of smaller, separate operations the impact is lessened.

Really raises the question - should vital infrastructure, like food production, be built in an attempt to maximize profit or resiliency? Have things swung too far in one direction?

Surely “profit versus resiliency” is solely a matter of time preference.

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Post by miltonlost »

ars wrote: post #316
misantroop wrote: post #280

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And the reason why it spreads so well is still concentrated industrial farming.

No, that's simply not true. It's being spread by wild birds, not concentrated farming. I know people love to blame "big anything", but it's just not true here. Here's a source: https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/virus-transmission/avian-in-bir... "Domesticated birds (chickens, turkeys, ducks, etc.) may become infected with avian influenza A viruses through direct contact with infected waterfowl or other infected poultry, o…

"Domesticated chickens may become infected by wild waterfowl or by other infected poultry", and other infected poultry includes domesticated chickens. Nowhere in that web page does it say that domesticated chickens cannot spread it to other domesticated chickens. Once a domesticated chicken becomes infected (however it became infected) in a massive concentrated area, it will spread that infection to other domesticated chickens. You're conflating "spreading across chicken farms by flight" with "spreading within chicken farms by already infected chickens" and saying the first is true so therefore the second can be.

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Post by declan_roberts »

_tariky wrote: post #219
spatley wrote: post #74

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I built a chicken coop, mostly as a hobby, and the eggs were a bonus. the 1,000 in materials for the structure and 25 bucks a month in food and bedding make that amortization table go out a couple of decades before you see ROI. I joke that they are the most expensive organic eggs you can buy. ;)

Health does not have a price. Owners of coops know how different are those organic eggs. Totally diffrent color of yolks, also they have totally different smell when they are cooked.

I also notice that the yolks are bigger in my backyard hens vs store bought eggs.

That could be a side-effect from slower winter laying though since we don't use an artificial light.

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Post by adrian_b »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #295
zo1 wrote: post #97

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This is disturbing and not what I found with eggs at all - Are eggs somehow different in the US compared to the rest of the world?

Eggs in the US, Canada, Japan, Scandinavia, and a couple other countries are washed, which removes a layer that seals the egg. Eggs are a major vector for salmonella contamination; washing them materially reduces the incidence rates. It is not egg specific. The countries that wash their eggs have atypically strong standards for bacterial contamination hygiene in food processing. Many food products from Europe are pro…

Europeans do not wash their eggs like the Americans, because they believe that this is a poor method for preventing Salmonella contamination, which has the serious drawback of increasing the chance that the eggs will not be safe for consumption when stored for a too long time.

In Europe, poultry vaccination against Salmonella is the preferred method. In most places Salmonella occurrences are exceedingly rare.

In general, Europeans believe that USA has atypically weak standards of food safety and that all the cases when certain kinds of European food are prohibited for import into USA on grounds of food safety are just cover-up stories, because the real reason is to avoid competition.

It is weird that USA has a phobia of vaccines even for poultry, because in this case there is no doubt that vaccines would have prevented the great financial losses caused by bird flu.

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Post by bombcar »

bluGill wrote: post #351
roughly wrote: post #200

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"Cheaper" varies by the costs of the various inputs. A local chicken farmer which sells to a local market has, aside from the costs of the land, chickens, feed, and labor, the costs of putting the eggs in a truck and driving the truck to the market. Larger distributors have the cost of collecting the eggs, driving them to a warehouse, storing them, potentially repeating that while optimizing inventory and locality, a…

Many of your small producers are not counting their full costs. They see they $ from selling eggs, but don't count the cost of the barn, their labor, the land the chickens are on... A real accountant would find all those hidden costs and figure out how you allocate the cost of the light bulbs in the barn to each chicken - only when you have all those numbers can you really see if it works out.

This is so common in small businesses. The biggest example I see is single-family landlords who are notoriously bad at doing the honest math.

This is often why small businesses survive until the owner dies/retires, because the were making much less money than needed to continue. The biggest one is ignoring location costs because they own the building (avoiding rents or mortgage which would immediately put the business way underwater).

Combine the above with small farms often ALSO being the home of the owner, and it gets quite flexible.

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Post by kobalsky »

davidw wrote: post #171

I've been fiddling around with the Albertsons API for fun. It's kind of neat to see a whole year's worth of purchases in nicely formatted JSON. I have half an idea to create something like a personal inflation tracker, but I'm still thinking about it. It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actu…

> It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actually happening any more and that therefore we must cut interest rates, or some such.

in the end statistics is a science, and results can be cross-referenced with independent sources.

you may get away with a bit, but not with much [1].

[1]: https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/economy/argentina-loses-bid-...

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