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Post by epistasis »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #110
afavour wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is also a great defense against something like bird flu. When you centralize operations a disease can spread through a population like wildfire. When it's a number of smaller, separate operations the impact is lessened.

Really raises the question - should vital infrastructure, like food production, be built in an attempt to maximize profit or resiliency? Have things swung too far in one direction?

> built in an attempt to maximize profit or resiliency

I think framing it as an either/or is a bit of a mental trap. They are sometimes in opposition, sometimes not.

For example, those farms which were not resilient are not maximizing their profits, since they've had more than a year of warning of avian flu. They were operating to minimize work and costs, not maximize profit, and they are losing out on a ton of it right now.

Those operations which built with resilience, or got lucky, are swimming in profits right now.

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Post by bityard »

jghn wrote: post #127
mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

This. I buy my eggs at the farmers market from a local, actually small, farm. I pay $8/doz. In normal times this is very expensive. But you know what? Tomorrow when I go to the farmers market they'll still cost me $8/doz.

I guess I don't see why local farmers _wouldn't_ raise their prices to maintain their premium above store-bought eggs. They certainly have around here.

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Post by theonething »

oaththrowaway wrote: post #188
codingdave wrote: post #163

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Which is great, so long as your flock does not get the flu and die. We have had chickens in the past, and while I fully support anyone wanting to do their own chickens, the level of effort to keep them clean and healthy, safe from predators, and the labor to take care of them is non-trivial. They were the most expensive and labor-intensive "free eggs" we ever had.

I have lost 2 flocks of chickens to a combination of raccoons, foxes, and skunks. Interestingly enough none of those could kill my turkeys - they are big enough to fight them off I guess. They don't lay as many eggs though. It is a lot of work, but after my last group was killed off 2 months I have not impressed by store eggs, so I'm planning on re-enforcing my coop so I can get another group of them soon.

> I have not impressed by store eggs

Curious to know what differences do you discern between store and fresh eggs? Not doubting you, just curious to know.

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Post by mullingitover »

Auracle wrote: post #175
epistasis wrote: post #133

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How does cage free make this worse? The supply shortages are coming from avian flu in every report I have heard.

Well, that'd depend on the law's definition of a cage but it's a hell of a lot easier to protect chickens that are fully enclosed vs those that are free range.

Caged vs cage free chickens are getting bird flu at about the same rate though, so this claim doesn’t really add up. It’s not like the caged chickens are in hermetically sealed chambers their whole lives, they’re shoulder to shoulder with some wire between them.

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Post by graemep »

Karellen wrote: post #204
financetechbro wrote: post #155

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Feels like we’ve swung exceedingly far. Our drive to capture efficiencies through economies of scale make us very vulnerable to systematic disruption

> Our drive to capture efficiencies through economies of scale Is that what's happened here? It looks to me more like the billionaire/PE class's drive to capture rents through monopolies is a more accurate lens to view the situation through. Especially as it's the trope namer for chickenization https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chickenization https://pluralistic.net/2022/04/17/revenge-of-the-chickenize... https://duckdu…

I think both are true.

It also goes far beyond farming - it applies to many supply chains.

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Post by niceice »

llamaimperative wrote: post #4
cortesoft wrote: post #2

Yeah, bird flu is really bad.

This is why we must freeze USDA funding, halt all public health communications from our federal government, and urgently (TOP PRIORITY!!!) scrub all mentions of the word "women" from every public-facing piece of scientific content we can find.

Source for the claim they are removing the word "women" from every public-facing piece of scientific content?

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Post by Auracle »

carb wrote: post #216
Auracle wrote: post #175

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Well, that'd depend on the law's definition of a cage but it's a hell of a lot easier to protect chickens that are fully enclosed vs those that are free range.

That's true when you're talking about foxes and wolves, but not if you're talking about an airborne flu. Rows of adjacent cages keeping groups of chickens in close proximity with each other with shared air.

Many cage free chickens are also free range chickens, where they can roam outside. That massively increases their chances of picking up the bird flu, as opposed to those they are inside all day.

I'm not advocating for one or the other, just explaining. Even cage free chickens will come into close enough proximity where they will all die if just one chicken picks up the flu. It's incredibly virulent.

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Post by [deleted] »

Xunjin wrote: post #15
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

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This is why we must freeze USDA funding, halt all public health communications from our federal government, and urgently (TOP PRIORITY!!!) scrub all mentions of the word "women" from every public-facing piece of scientific content we can find.

I hope they stop this cultural war and focus on the real problems that actually affects the population,for example, high prices.

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Post by mullingitover »

bavarianbob wrote: post #170
epistasis wrote: post #133

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How does cage free make this worse? The supply shortages are coming from avian flu in every report I have heard.

It's another requirement to comply with. More work for the producer == higher cost for the consumer.

When California’s anti animal cruelty measure went into effect the price difference was negligible.

Thus stuff is not related, wild to see people trying to conflate it.

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Post by rafram »

ge96 wrote: post #236

I rarely eat eggs so haven't been paying attention to it I pretty much eat the same thing everyday: packaged peanuts (spicy ones), microwave single piece of batch baked chicken, frozen vegetables, brown rice, throw some terriyaki and soy suace on it boom, lazy meal. The peanuts are $0.69 each

Well, it beats Soylent.
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