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Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by jl6 »

Spivak wrote: post #14
llamaimperative wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why we must freeze USDA funding, halt all public health communications from our federal government, and urgently (TOP PRIORITY!!!) scrub all mentions of the word "women" from every public-facing piece of scientific content we can find.

I did think it was funny that they included 'women' and 'female' in that list. Medicine is gonna have a hard time with that one, "this drug has some adverse effects with uhh… ovulating persons?"

They didn’t include 'women' and 'female' in that list.

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Post by slothtrop »

llamaimperative wrote: post #176
slothtrop wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It would be very uncharitable to extrapolate that to "the people joking about eggs don't care about working-class people". I put it to you that the conservative opposition and bigots are very uncharitable at the outset, in interpretation of messaging from the other side. In this case they didn't have to do any work, it was literally said for them. Don't forget that working people and moderates are the ones you need…

Who is mocking egg prices? I see people mocking the administration's total lack of effectiveness or even giving-a-fuckness about egg prices. Which is exactly what should be amplified over and over and over, because you're right, this stuff does actually hurt people.

I mean if the avalanche of responses to me doesn't tell you that this was "a thing", there's nothing to say.

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Post by happytoexplain »

slothtrop wrote: post #92
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not it at all and it's hard to see how you interpreted it that way. Trump promised to bring down egg prices and grocery prices on day one. It was an obvious lie and now that it has been proven it was a lie it's important to let people know the current president lied to them flagrantly. >"I don't care that working people find things expensive" Literally no one is saying that.

> It was an obvious lie It wasn't obvious to the voters. And at the risk of repeating myself, calling people stupid is not effective. > it's hard to see how you interpreted it that way. Try in good faith. > Literally no one is saying that. "but egg prices!!!". They might as well be.

>They might as well be.

I disagree. The egg criticism, while sarcastic (something almost universally bad) is not unclear. It obviously does not imply people should never care about grocery store prices. Effectively nobody makes that argument - obviously.

And just as obviously, political opponents of the people making these jokes will characterize them that way, as always (something both sides do all the time). So, you may certainly make the argument that people shouldn't be making these jokes for politically strategic reason, to avoid that comparison. But to suggest that the comparison is rational and honest isn't convincing to me.

This is a very common line of disconnect in tribalism. Another high profile example was people saying that the phrase "BLM" meant that other lives don't matter. When a tribe has a catch-phrasified position, the opposing tribe is motivated to convince those in their tribe of a bad-faith interpretation. The degree to which the bad-faith interpretation is genuinely, mistakenly believed, vs a knowing uncharitable interpretation, is certainly arguable. But it's not convincing to argue that the bad-faith interpretation is broadly true.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by Karellen »

financetechbro wrote: post #155
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really raises the question - should vital infrastructure, like food production, be built in an attempt to maximize profit or resiliency? Have things swung too far in one direction?

Feels like we’ve swung exceedingly far. Our drive to capture efficiencies through economies of scale make us very vulnerable to systematic disruption

> Our drive to capture efficiencies through economies of scale

Is that what's happened here? It looks to me more like the billionaire/PE class's drive to capture rents through monopolies is a more accurate lens to view the situation through. Especially as it's the trope namer for chickenization

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chickenization

https://pluralistic.net/2022/04/17/revenge-of-the-chickenize...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chickenization&ia=web

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by ars »

bluedino wrote: post #134
mcv wrote: post #115

What's going on with eggs in the US? The whole world had high inflation after Covid, so that's not US-specific, but eggs tripling in price? That is extreme. I don't think my (Dutch, free-range organic) eggs went up more than 25%.

Meanwhile, chicken prices haven't increased at KFC, Hooters, or Popeyes.

That's because chickens raised for meat don't live long enough to be affected.

A second reason is because chickens get sick by contact with wild bids, due to free range laws for egg laying chickens.

Meat chickens don't go outside, they are kept in large barns, although without the pens and egg collection of their egg laying sisters. So they are not affected.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by simple10 »

themaninthedark wrote: post #37
simple10 wrote: post #5

I live in CA and saw a massive jump in prices when the state ordered chickens to be euthanized due to bird flu. It was also the first time I saw grocery store shelves completely empty of eggs for days at a time. Prices for organic eggs have somewhat returned to pre-bird flu levels but the regular sales and discounts have stopped. Non-organic eggs are still significantly higher.

My understanding is that free range law have recently gone into effect in CA. Were the organic eggs already free range? That would explain the price stability there and variation of the non organic.

AFAIK, free-range and cage free are not heavily regulated terms like organic, which is a registered and trademark enforced term. At best they just mean the hens have a bit more room to move around. Neither of them actually mean there is no cage.

It's why we see "pasture raised" as the more premium marketing term. It still doesn't mean much without looking into the specific farm.

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Post by crtez »

davidw wrote: post #171

I've been fiddling around with the Albertsons API for fun. It's kind of neat to see a whole year's worth of purchases in nicely formatted JSON. I have half an idea to create something like a personal inflation tracker, but I'm still thinking about it. It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actu…

Is it an official API? I’m not able to find any links about it, if you could provide some I’d love to look into my own purchases.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by ars »

SG- wrote: post #162

eggs in Canada are still $4CAD/dozen which is $2.80 USD. Canadian egg producers have smaller and spread out farms preventing disease spread along with better supply issues overall.

I wonder if that's a geographical thing, with fewer infected wild birds in Canada.

The disease is not spreading due to factory farms, large or small, it's spreading via wild birds.

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

afavour wrote: post #84
mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

This is also a great defense against something like bird flu. When you centralize operations a disease can spread through a population like wildfire. When it's a number of smaller, separate operations the impact is lessened.

Profit of course! And only short term profit! Don’t want any of you eggheads trying to constrain profit to the goal of not killing all our customers!

Re: Eggs US – Price – Chart

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Post by slothtrop »

ttyprintk wrote: post #195
slothtrop wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone has to buy food. Eggs are (generally) an inexpensive animal product, and people in the US generally buy animal products.

It’s a much stronger argument to say that anyone who sits down to do their household finances, blithely passes over their health insurance and worries about eggs must be buying thousands per month. In terms of GDP, health spending is 3x all agriculture.

Eggs are just signaled out as part of a whole. Inflation impacts many food products, as you well have noticed. Did you grocery bill go up since 2020, or did it not?
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