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Post by davidw »

I've been fiddling around with the Albertsons API for fun. It's kind of neat to see a whole year's worth of purchases in nicely formatted JSON.

I have half an idea to create something like a personal inflation tracker, but I'm still thinking about it.

It's entirely possible that these goons will start fiddling with official statistics around things like unemployment and inflation to tell us that inflation is not actually happening any more and that therefore we must cut interest rates, or some such.

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Post by jl6 »

mplanchard wrote: post #18

Fresh, local eggs have remained around the same price here. While more expensive than eggs from large producers in normal times, they are now often cheaper. This is a great reminder of how important it is to support local farmers and small operations, which increase the resilience of the system as a whole.

Are small local farms able to keep producing as normal because the birds aren’t getting bird flu or because they’re not testing/killing them?

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Post by ars »

jeffbee wrote: post #72
themaninthedark wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that free range law have recently gone into effect in CA. Were the organic eggs already free range? That would explain the price stability there and variation of the non organic.

Do you mean cage-free hen regulation? This statewide regulation has been in effect since 2022.

Free ranging chickens is the proximate cause of Bird Flu. Chickens get it from wild birds that land near them.

States are going to have to repeal those laws and confine chickens in sealed buildings to protect them.

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Post by mcmcmc »

epistasis wrote: post #133
bluedino wrote: post #118

Michigan here, this is has been made worse by a new law requiring all eggs to be 'cage-free'. I think I paid $9 for the cheap store-brand eggs (18) last week. And that is, if they even have any eggs at the store. I've been to Wal-mart and Kroger when the entire section is empty with a sign saying there are egg supply issues. It's also winter so my 'chicken farmer friends' are low on eggs, when it's cold the chickens…

How does cage free make this worse? The supply shortages are coming from avian flu in every report I have heard.

It increases the cost of egg production which shifts the supply curve left raising the market clearing price. If it were cheaper then all egg producers would be doing it.

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Post by Auracle »

epistasis wrote: post #133
bluedino wrote: post #118

Michigan here, this is has been made worse by a new law requiring all eggs to be 'cage-free'. I think I paid $9 for the cheap store-brand eggs (18) last week. And that is, if they even have any eggs at the store. I've been to Wal-mart and Kroger when the entire section is empty with a sign saying there are egg supply issues. It's also winter so my 'chicken farmer friends' are low on eggs, when it's cold the chickens…

How does cage free make this worse? The supply shortages are coming from avian flu in every report I have heard.

Well, that'd depend on the law's definition of a cage but it's a hell of a lot easier to protect chickens that are fully enclosed vs those that are free range.

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Post by llamaimperative »

slothtrop wrote: post #149
happytoexplain wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It became a meme/joke because of the contrast between the good part of Trump's image (promise of egg prices) and the bad part (extreme pettiness, violence, lawlessness, fascist-adjacent behavior, etc). Contrast is a big part of jokes. It would be very uncharitable to extrapolate that to "the people joking about eggs don't care about working-class people". The people joking about it largely are affected by grocery sto…

> It would be very uncharitable to extrapolate that to "the people joking about eggs don't care about working-class people". I put it to you that the conservative opposition and bigots are very uncharitable at the outset, in interpretation of messaging from the other side. In this case they didn't have to do any work, it was literally said for them. Don't forget that working people and moderates are the ones you need…

Who is mocking egg prices? I see people mocking the administration's total lack of effectiveness or even giving-a-fuckness about egg prices. Which is exactly what should be amplified over and over and over, because you're right, this stuff does actually hurt people.

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Post by slothtrop »

hypeatei wrote: post #147
slothtrop wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's platform was bad, that does not make it reasonable to trivialize cost of living. Notwithstanding that Biden was punished for inflationary spending, all Trump had to do was lean on the perception that people "had it better" in his term. You don't need to lower prices if your wages go up, and notwithstanding that this lags, the perception has been that wages have not kept up. Obviously the intuition was that el…

Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said. This happened internationally as well: incumbents lost. The rate of inflation and economy were doing quite well, with wages being higher than ever before[0]. No one is saying these people can't complain about high prices, but that we can't lie to ourselves about the solution. It was obvious to many that Trump would…

> Voters getting rid of the incumbent because of a perceived wrong does not discredit any of what I said.

Most of it had no bearing on my point in the first place, but your claim that voters "didn't actually care" was refuted and you haven't offered a credible reason to believe it.

> It was obvious to many

Not to Trump's voters.

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Post by dastbe »

whimsicalism wrote: post #136
zie wrote: post #104

Fake/Vegetarian eggs are priced the same here, so I made the switch and am only using fake eggs now for most of my cooking.

arent eggs already vegetarian

Eggs are definitely a grey area for vegetarians, to the point where vegetarians will describe ovo-lacto-vegetarians where they are ok with eggs (and animal milk) whereas others aren't.

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Post by whimsicalism »

vips7L wrote: post #166
whimsicalism wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

arent eggs already vegetarian

Technically since they're not meat and aren't born, but they're not vegan or ethical. The treatment of hens is inhumane.

i'm vegan, just describing the state of modern american understandings of words

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Post by llm_nerd »

Scoundreller wrote: post #106
llm_nerd wrote: post #48

Here in Ontario I'm buying eggs for $2.99 / dozen, or about $2.10 USD. This isn't a boast or schadenfreude, but is an observation that the protected, stable industry (supply management), which itself yields smaller, less industrialized operations means that while bird flu is a problem, it's hitting smaller clusters rather than gigantic mega operations where gigantic numbers of birds get culled. So while our eggs are…

It’s great for the industrial food processor or restaurant chain that has a consistent demand/menu for eggs. But more meh for the consumer that’s more liquid/dynamic/reactive and can easily substitute ad hoc if something gets too expensive. It’s an industrial subsidy at more than one level.

Consumer demand for eggs and milk is extremely consistent over the short term, and when the price explodes people just...pay more. Hence all of the mad rushes and bizarre hoarding behaviour for this perishable product across the US. People are just spending more of their income on eggs, and bizarrely might be buying even more than normal. Over decades people change habits but for something acute they just suck it up.

>It’s an industrial subsidy at more than one level.

It's food security. There have been times Canadians were almost convinced to eliminate it to pander to the US, but in the face of the idiocracy taking hold down South, and its boom-bust agricultural sector (one that yields enormous numbers of farmer suicides)...yeah, it isn't ever going anywhere.

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