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Re: Apple Invites

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Post by crazygringo »

m463 wrote: post #518
crazygringo wrote: post #501

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to explicitly upgrade. There's no trick as far as I can tell. And they haven't increased the price of the $0.99 tier ever, and it's been around for 8 years I think. I don't think they've ever increased the price of any storage plan in the US ever -- prices in other countries have changed but that seems to do more with currency fluctuations. Apple is known for their transparent pricing and easy cancellation.…

> There's no trick as far as I can tell. I think that is the trick. 99 cents is so innocuous, that people set up billing to allow it. People who set up their apple id without a credit card will probably attach a card to their account to get the 99 cent storage "deal". At that point, upgrading to the next tier is inevitable as phones have been steadily increasing in storage capacity. I think it would be nicer if your…

There's no winning then, is there?

If a company doesn't offer a super cheap tier, then people complain it's too expensive and they're paying for space they don't need.

If Apple does offer a super cheap tier, there are complaints it's some kind of trick.

The $0.99 tier has been great for my needs. If you have a 64 GB phone you never need more. If you have a larger phone you quite frequently don't need more -- a lot of my phone storage goes to song, podcast, and video downloads. That stuff doesn't need to be backed up, and isn't by default.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by dubcanada »

green_leaves wrote: post #818
canucker2016 wrote: post #357

I think some demographic info can be useful in judging the potential uptake. Apple iPhone ownership amongst USA teens: 2024: 87% 2019: 83% 2014: 67% https://www.iclarified.com/95177/87-of-us-teens-own-iphones-... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/piper-jaffray-completes-se... https://www.pipersandler.com/news/different-new-cool-accordi... Smartphone marketshare for iPhone in various countries: 65%: Norway 59%: Sweden…

Norway data from statcounter doesn't seem reliable. In just 4 months, July->October 2024, there's a 14% upswing in iphone total marketshare. Which implies that at least 14% of users bought a new phone, assuming (wrongly) that everybody would have changed from Android to iPhone (ignoring also deceases and teenagers getting their first phone). And the period doesn't even include Black Friday or Christmas. And barely th…

statcounter just uses data from website traffic, it's nothing more then Google Analytics

So the 14% increase is probably a single or few site(s) getting a insane amount of traffic.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by krger »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #736
mjamil wrote: post #723

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Why would the stewards of a walled garden want other gardens (walled or otherwise) be as good as theirs? What moral or economic imperative exists for such a belief? Why is that bad?

> Why would the stewards of a walled garden want other gardens (walled or otherwise) be as good as theirs? What moral (...) imperative exists for such a belief? Not being an asshole? It's normal instinct unless one's brain has been thoroughly eaten by competitiveness. > Why is that bad? Because in this, Apple is attacking the commons. They're trying to provide an alternative to normal invite system - one that's been…

>They're trying to provide an alternative to normal invite system - one that's been established and battle-tested over decades, one that works okay-ish across any device, real or virtual, on any platform, and one that people know how to use.

And if the people who try Invites discover that it isn't, in fact, superior to this "normal invite system"—whatever you believe it to be—that you claim is "established and battle-tested," they won't continue using it and will go back to what they were doing before.

>An alternative that gives some bells and whistles exclusively to the Apple users, and perhaps even is more ergonomic in practice.

Do you believe that all vendors should be forbidden from shipping any new application or feature that doesn't offer full interoperability and feature parity with everybody else or is that a limitation you believe should be applied only to Apple?

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by Aromasin »

nostromo wrote: post #317
happyopossum wrote: post #222

My wife is in a position (board chair for a co-op) that results in her sending out a lot of invites to events. Evite has kinda been the go-to in her social/co-op group for ages, but man it suuuuuuucks these days. Ads everywhere, annoying patterns, and lacks a bunch of nice features that this seems to have. Very happy to see this

I organize a lot of events for a rugby team, and our events are now all on Partiful. Maybe it'll go downhill like Evite and Facebook Events - but for now it's quite good.

Our club uses Spond for invites. I'm not sure what the financial side of it looks like, but it's been great for coordinating training/games/socials.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by laken »

simonask wrote: post #783
astrange wrote: post #344

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This green text thing only happens in the US. Nobody really uses iMessage elsewhere.

Apple/iOS has market dominance in several places outside the US, including Japan, Canada, Scandinavia, and several other European nations. It has a slight majority in the UK. Android has worldwide dominance overall, but people tend to communicate locally. Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma...

Japan and most of Europe do not really use iMessage (Japan uses LINE, Europe generally uses WhatsApp), so I'm not sure exactly how iPhone market dominance is relevant to the previous commenter's point.

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by buildallday239 »

alberth wrote: post #830

Feature Suggestion: (for any Apple employees reading), can you add the ability for coordinating amongst the invite attendees what date the event should be. I coordinate creating events but have to sort through figuring out a date that works for most/everyone. And since I'm coordinating with non-employees (no view into their calendar), figuring out peoples calendar is a main pain. If this functionality could be added,…

Partiful has this (poll guests to find a time that works)

Re: Apple Invites

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Post by JadoJodo »

I will be honest that I was very disappointed that this didn't include physical (mailed) invites: Apple already has the capability for printed materials via their Photos app, third-party printing services.

This service is only a half-measure (in my mind) because some of the people I want to invite are:

- Not deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem (this is a weak critique, as the invite URL only requires an email address)

- Not tech-savvy enough to manage a response in this way: If I have an Apple account, I have to log in. If I don't, I have to provide my email, enter the code sent to my email, and then remember to click the applicable RSVP option. Add to my calendar? What is an iCal file? Oh, no! I think the event is happening soon... How do I get back to the page with the details?

- Friends of my kids (i.e., children), whose address is the only form of contact info they have. Sometimes events are HOW you get to know the parents, get their contact info.

I feel like a printed + mailed invite _along with_ the evite was a missed slow-pitch:

- It's an ad for Apple (your customers are literally paying YOU to mail advertising material to their friends/family)

- It could easily include the evite URL via QR code + a text number to RSVP (e.g., "text 'yes abc123' to XXXXX to RSVP")

Failing ALL of that, I have a physical invite with the details of the event.

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