I think Newell has misjudged why Linux hasn't taken off as a personal computing platform. Sure, the lack of games doesn't help, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
sure, most of my friends are CS majors, but if they aren't linux users already, the reason they always cite is the lack of support for games. What else is there for an end user?
Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
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Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the problem is that the Microsoft store will be the only way to get software on Windows 8 Rt. Microsoft is essentially pulling an Apple and there is no way that is a net benefit for Valve or the community in general. There are other problems with Windows 8, but I think the closed ARM version is a really big one.
Yeah but, Windows 8 itself is a train wreck. Seriously, who is going to upgrade to it? It's too different. Nobody is going to go out of their way to buy it, the only installs it will get is as OEM's on new hardware. And I bet even the OEMs will offer Windows 7 for as long as they can. I think if users _have_ to have something different they will seriously consider OSX and Linux. One is more polished on better hardwar…
I use Linux and I care, probably too much, about it.
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#23So...Steam is a closed platform as well. We have a game on Steam, and I can tell you that the sales on the Steam platform are much better than the other open ones. One of the reasons for this is the big user base, but the closed nature of the platform is also a large factor. Kinda seems like the pot calling the kettle black.
Also, in the article I don't think Gabe Newell ever says that the problem with Windows is that it is closed per se. It's not as though he fails to realize that Steam is not open source software.
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a lot of windows-only apps in the business world.
There are also a lot of apple-only apps in the business world. And how many business apps are being built for windows right now, compared to the number that are being built of iOS and osX right now? I guess that the latter has much more activity...
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah but, Windows 8 itself is a train wreck. Seriously, who is going to upgrade to it? It's too different. Nobody is going to go out of their way to buy it, the only installs it will get is as OEM's on new hardware. And I bet even the OEMs will offer Windows 7 for as long as they can. I think if users _have_ to have something different they will seriously consider OSX and Linux. One is more polished on better hardwar…
>One is more polished on better hardware for people who have the money and want the best. Is this at all true? If you spent an identical sum of money on a PC would you not get better hardware?
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah but, Windows 8 itself is a train wreck. Seriously, who is going to upgrade to it? It's too different. Nobody is going to go out of their way to buy it, the only installs it will get is as OEM's on new hardware. And I bet even the OEMs will offer Windows 7 for as long as they can. I think if users _have_ to have something different they will seriously consider OSX and Linux. One is more polished on better hardwar…
> I think if users _have_ to have something different they will seriously consider OSX and Linux. One is more polished on better hardware for people who have money and want the best. The other is free for people who don't care. I use Linux and I care, probably too much, about it.
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#27I think Newell has misjudged why Linux hasn't taken off as a personal computing platform. Sure, the lack of games doesn't help, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are also a lot of apple-only apps in the business world. And how many business apps are being built for windows right now, compared to the number that are being built of iOS and osX right now? I guess that the latter has much more activity...
I think the latter has a lot more visibility, at least.
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
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sure, most of my friends are CS majors, but if they aren't linux users already, the reason they always cite is the lack of support for games. What else is there for an end user?
CS majors make up a rather small percentage of all PC users. What is your point exactly?
Re: Valve’s Newell: Windows 8 “catastrophe” driving Valve to embrace Linux
#30I think Newell has misjudged why Linux hasn't taken off as a personal computing platform. Sure, the lack of games doesn't help, but that is just the tip of the iceberg.
sure, most of my friends are CS majors, but if they aren't linux users already, the reason they always cite is the lack of support for games. What else is there for an end user?