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Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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Why on earth would a for profit company refuse a potential line of profit?

They already dumped "do no evil" many years ago and they are now all in on fuck the poor and fuck the rest: I'm making profits and all is fine.

Google makes money and they don't appear to care how - its all about the money.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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“More effective” at what? No one is ever going to be convinced by an argument that begins with an insult. So what do you mean by it will be more effective?

Do you honestly think an insult never brought about a change in a person? You never think a carefully landed and accurate insult made someone reconsider their position? Weird, because in my experience, that has happened to every single person I know and myself. Whether it's at the start or end of a comment is not really the point.

It may do depending in context, but that's not the point and in fact is widely recognized as a ad hominem argument and fallacious by definition.

Most emotionally mature people would stop arguing after something like that.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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I want to be upset over this in an exasperated expression of oddly naive "why can't we all get along?" frame of mind. I want to, because I know how I would like the world to look like, but as a species we, including myself, continually fail to disappoint when it comes nearly guaranteed self-destruction. I want to get upset over it, but I sadly recognize the reality of the why this is not surprising to anyone. We actu…

You can and should be upset. No reason to become complacent, that's a path to accelerated destruction.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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There is a wide range of moral and practical opinions between the statement “all weapons are evil” and “global corporations ought not to develop autonomous weapons”.

Tell Putin. He will entertain no such inhibitions.

We have Putin at home, he spent the past weekend making populist noises about annexing his neighbours over bullshit pretenses.

I'm sure this sounds like a big nothingburger from the perspective of, you know, people he isn't threatening.

How can you excuse that behaviour? How can you think someone like that can be trusted with any weapons? How naive and morally bankrupt do you have to be to build a gun for that kind of person, and think that it won't be used irresponsibly?

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

#235

Why on earth would a for profit company refuse a potential line of profit? They already dumped "do no evil" many years ago and they are now all in on fuck the poor and fuck the rest: I'm making profits and all is fine. Google makes money and they don't appear to care how - its all about the money.

This is the case for boycotts, so a for-profit company loses when they make immoral decisions that destroy the brand and impact the bottom line.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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Good, this idea that all weapons are evil is an insane luxury belief.

The US is not under any kind of credible threat and in fact is the aggressor across the globe and perpetrator of crimes against humanity at scale. This is not a recent phenomena and has been going on as long as this country has existed.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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In WWII neither side used poison gas. It doesn’t have to be this way.

Excuse me, what?

It means all nations can agree to not unleash AI based weapons on the world. Sadly I don't see this happening.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

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Who is that?

Palantir, for one?

By what measure? Google has a market cap that's 10x Palantir, and the gap in revenue/profit is even more massive. They aren't in the same league at all.

Re: Google drops pledge not to use AI for weapons or surveillance

#239

Dollar short and a day late. The future of the US tech industry belongs to those who weren't interested in performative woke nonsense like this during the last decade.

Protesting weapons manufacturing has been going on long before reactionaries started fearing the "woke" boogeyman. People protested Dupont for making napalm during the Vietnam war.
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