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If it's anything like the web version of Facetime, it's not gonna be a great experience for non-iOS users.
...there's a web facetime??
Apparently there is!
Apple Invites
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#422Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Does the color affect functionality or are we going to pass laws based on feelings?
> are we going to pass laws based on feelings? This is very concrete fuckery. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust... https://www.npr.org/2024/03/28/1241473453/why-green-text-bub... https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/21/doj-claims-green-bubbles-a...
The concrete fuckery:
(Politico) Lower video quality
(NPR) Feeling unwelcome
(TechCrunch) Peer pressure
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#423I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
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#424Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Does the color affect functionality or are we going to pass laws based on feelings?
It does. If you try to send a photo in an inferior green bubble chat, you get an error. Face time calls don’t work. The text is harder to read for me because it’s low contrast and can’t be configured. It’s significantly less secure, and a government agent required I use blue bubble imessage to submit an important document for security, and wouldn’t accept it by sms or email since both were not secure enough
Sending a message should just default to MMS, which I agree is lower quality especially for videos, but shouldn't get an error. I'm in multiple group chats with Android users and it's fine other than videos, which are from 2005.
I think SMS/MMS should just go away entirely though.
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#425I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
Blame the telcos for the relative poor quality of text message multimedia (via MMS). The telcos specify the size limits of MMS messages. iMessage has much higher limits in most cases, so iPhone has to use reduce the quality of the pics/videos to reach the lower size limits for sending to non-iMessage recipients. For the telcos, why would they upgrade their size limits for MMS - it's just a cost centre for them. They…
I'll blame Apple for dragging their feet on RCS as long as they possibly could
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#426I really hope this fails. Apple will use it's dominant position to create lock in like how they did with iMessage instead of cooperating with other platforms on a common standard. Oder friends and family are surprised when they want to video call over Facetime and find it hard to believe other people's phones don't have Apple apps.
Blame the telcos for the relative poor quality of text message multimedia (via MMS). The telcos specify the size limits of MMS messages. iMessage has much higher limits in most cases, so iPhone has to use reduce the quality of the pics/videos to reach the lower size limits for sending to non-iMessage recipients. For the telcos, why would they upgrade their size limits for MMS - it's just a cost centre for them. They…
Sorry, but the issue is not the standards for SMS/MMS. Yes, they're old standards, and have size limitations.
It's entirely up to Apple whether to make their iMessage platform available on other platforms.
They've shown they're quite invested in keeping it to running on Apple hardware only by going after and blocking any 3rd party attempt to provide iMessage compatible clients.
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#427Earlier quoted context omitted.
The lag between OTA broadcast and cable/streaming is insanely bad. We had several screens tuned in to World Cup, and the group watching the OTA broadcast would cheer 15-20 seconds before the cable/streaming screens would. Knowing it exists is one thing, but seeing it in that manner puts it on a whole other level
Why does it matter that information from a sports event that you are 1000 miles away from gets to you 3 seconds later? Why do you care? Why is it a negative?
Where do you come up with 3 seconds when I said 15-20 seconds later?
The World Cup I was referring to was the infamous match where a player received 3 yellow cards, and the delay from cable was so long that the OTA viewers (a Spanish language broadcast) had time to come running in to ask if that made any more sense in English. But the English broadcast had not yet seen it.
It was just bizarre. It's negative because it's annoying AF. But since you want to minimize things by making up numbers to attempt to make a point instead of accepting the provided information, there's no way we'll ever see eye to eye.
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#428What's wrong with "create a Whatsapp group and invite all your friends there, and if they don't care they just mute/leave"?
I suspect this new Apple Invite is going to be like iMessage, popular in the US and basically unused anywhere else.
It seems like Apple has some difficulty to adapt to some international audience.
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#429Great, another Apple service I will have to find every option to disable on my phone before its abused by scammers.
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What's preventing Google from competing and making their own better version of this? I don't see where there's anything that Apple is doing here that couldn't be easily replicated by them using their own ecosystem.
I'm not a fan of either doing this. I'm watching all open protocols slowly disappear and it's killing innovation in the industry.
The "open protocol" is Facebook Events right now. It's a pretty low bar.